If yes.. explain
If not.. what black male r&b artist is?
:ohwow:
Chris Brown :raycharles2urmess:
No, i really don't
That's a tough one. Part of me says yes, part says no. I feel like he has tarnished his legacy a bit
Yea. I guess so
'Bert is the only R&B male LEGEND from the 90's though :letsmessfag:
I'm actually gonna say no. I think a big part of being iconic is the ability to evolve....and he never really has past Confessions.
Quote from: Real on October 10, 2016, 02:38:14 PM
I'm actually gonna say no. I think a big part of being iconic is the ability to evolve....and he never really has past Confessions.
wow yeah. this is true :ohwow:
I don't. There's nothing really iconic about him to me.
Sure he had a nice run, but I don't really see anyone trying to emulate anything he does.
He hasn't really left a mark.
I'd say so.
The My Way - Confessions eras are iconic imo.
Usher has been extremely successful.
But he isn't influential, he hasn't contributed anything to the culture of music besides charts :dead:
He's only really had 3 memorable eras in his whole career.
No one is trying to emulate FLUSH though :dead:
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 02:41:57 PM
I don't. There's nothing really iconic about him to me.
Sure he had a nice run, but I don't really see anyone trying to emulate anything he does.
He hasn't really left a mark.
This is EXACTLY how i feel. Like yea he has some great stats (Getting a diamond album, ESPECIALLY as a male R&B Artist is no small feat) but Usher is so MEH to me. Like NOTHING about him is extraordinary or even iconic like to me. He had a great run, and that's about it
Of course
He'll be remembered for the hits and great vidyas and performances
and that's about it
He didn't try too hard to make his own lane, he kinda went with the flow his entire career
Yes he is
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 02:49:24 PM
He didn't try too hard to make his own lane, he kinda went with the flow his entire career
And that's an issue :dead:
Quote from: pettypatty on October 10, 2016, 02:51:34 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 02:49:24 PM
He didn't try too hard to make his own lane, he kinda went with the flow his entire career
And that's an issue :dead:
Yea, nothing and i mean NOTHING sticks out about him imhfo
Quote from: pettypatty on October 10, 2016, 02:51:34 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 02:49:24 PM
He didn't try too hard to make his own lane, he kinda went with the flow his entire career
And that's an issue :dead:
Yeah this is pretty much the definition of not iconic lol
Yes by default.
But Icons really shouldn't be selling 30k in their prime
Yh but I mean cyndi lauper is also an icon. It's a cute title
Quote from: Real on October 10, 2016, 02:38:14 PM
I'm actually gonna say no. I think a big part of being iconic is the ability to evolve....and he never really has past Confessions.
Like forreal, break it down
He ain't the best dancer and isn't some world renowned performer
He isn't known as having a really amazing voice
He hasn't had good music in forever, nor has he ever been known for making like really iconic music.
He has nothing to sustain his career or legacy which is why his fall from grace has been so iconic
He doesn't even have iconic pop culture moments... he just always was there nn
But you guys dont feel like once you become so massive, the title just sticks?
Usher is one artist that will always mentioned when talking about music from the 2000s, and R&B males period
I wanna say so but he's kinda borderline. He's more of a veteran imo, due to his longevity and period of success. He will be remembered for his looks, his performance skills, and his success, which includes his biggest singles/albums/videos etc. But Usher doesn't really offer any distinct vocal stylings and his music wasn't really innovative. He lacks the proper impact and influence necessary to that of an icon/legend.
Male R&B singers except for Bert or the neo soul gorls have all been boring tho
Quote from: jtwoeleven on October 10, 2016, 03:01:41 PM
I wanna say so but he's kinda borderline. He's more of a veteran imo, due to his longevity and period of success. He will be remembered for his looks, his performance skills, and his success, which includes his biggest singles/albums/videos etc. But Usher doesn't really offer any distinct vocal stylings and his music wasn't really innovative. He lacks the proper impact and influence necessary to that of an icon/legend.
Thats how I feel
He's just.. bland. :dead: :dead: :dead:
But was extremely successful. :ohwow:
:dead:
So by default he's up there. He's like the basic bland prototype personality free male R&B star. Slick dancing, corny videos, the whole thing
All the artistically useless gorls like Omarion or Mindless Behavior are in that usher vein
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 03:01:17 PM
But you guys dont feel like once you become so massive, the title just sticks?
Usher is one artist that will always mentioned when talking about music from the 2000s, and R&B males period
Thats why i get why SOMEONE could say it because i agree that he is synonymous with the 2000s, but after so long without something to refer back to, that won't last imo. Like malcolm said, he doesn't even have any really iconic moments to reflect back on. At some point he'll just be a moment in time and not something we refer back to because there's no reason to :dead:
Veteran? Yes.
Icon? No
It's sad that his key song is "Yeah" nnn
I would consider Beyonce & Lady Gaga to be icons. They have left an undeniable mark.
Usher has not.
I would even say Rihanna is more of an icon than Usher.
He's not. I'm sorry. And that's no shade at all.
He was always just... there. Hence the way he nosedived from popularity. It took him a long ass time to get noticed then he did then... yea.
Ray is gonna come in here and SNAP :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 10, 2016, 03:08:07 PM
It's sad that his key song is "Yeah" nnn
:dead:
Like chart wise "Yeah" was huge but like it's not even more iconic than "Ignition"
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 10, 2016, 03:08:07 PM
It's sad that his key song is "Yeah" nnn
I don't agree with this tho. Maybe internationally. U Make Me Wanna alone is kinda an R&B classic
Usher is nothing but stats.
Quote from: pettypatty on October 10, 2016, 03:09:46 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 10, 2016, 03:08:07 PM
It's sad that his key song is "Yeah" nnn
:dead:
Like chart wise "Yeah" was huge but like it's not even more iconic than "Ignition"
!!!! It's just that song that comes in the club every now and again. No impact rly
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 03:09:47 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 10, 2016, 03:08:07 PM
It's sad that his key song is "Yeah" nnn
I don't agree with this tho. Maybe internationally. U Make Me Wanna alone is kinda an R&B classic
Is it tho? Is it revered and does the song have an after life. I mean I loved it as a kid... but "pony" gives R&B classic, hell "sweet lady"
"U make me wanna" saved his career
I remember L.A. Reid saying Usher didn't like the song, but they went with it as the lead single anyways.
His poor ear :tistheseas:
I definitely think U make me wanna is an R&B classic. Maybe U got it bad or u remind me are not memorable but not U make me wanna
Yeah. I agree. "U make me wanna" is a classic
And since his prime is up he can't shape his legacy anymore... Adele or somebody needs to cover one of his records to make him iconic retroactively
Ray is gonna come in hea and explode :kii:
I think every male R&B artist aspires to have the success Usher has had. But Musically, no one looks to him for inspiration.
and to make matters worse he doesn't have any signature looks or iconic videos/moments like his peers do :kii:
isn't his signature song a Crunk song? I have never. :plzstop: And let's keep it 100, Ginuwine has more iconic songs and impact than Flush! No wonder he fell off so bad and doesn't have a solid loyal fanbase lol!
Yeah. Has Usher ever really had a "look?" I think that's part of being an icon too.
The durag and those big chains
b
Y'all have truly lost it. Usher is one of the BIGGEST male R&B artist of all time.
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Quote from: Baphomet. on October 10, 2016, 03:03:52 PM
Usher is def' an Icon. :dead:
!!!
What did he do to get the hate he's getiing? :plzstop:
I consider him apart the same group of young r&b stars that rose in the 90's. With Bran, Liy & Mon. Throw Ginu' in there too. They are all R&B icons at the very least. Their contributions to the genre can't be denied.
Quote from: Boomer on October 10, 2016, 03:49:15 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 10, 2016, 03:03:52 PM
Usher is def' an Icon. :dead:
!!!
What did he do to get the hate he's getiing? :plzstop:
I consider him apart the same group of young r&b stars that rose in the 90's. With Bran, Liy & Mon. Throw Ginu' in there too. They are all R&B icons at the very least. Their contributions to the genre can't be denied.
Funny you should say that cause when you say "R&B Icons" I think SWV, Jodeci, Faith etc NOT Usher :dead:
Yea, iono i just don't consider usher......like AT ALL. I have 3 of his albums (4 if u count the live one) and i don't go back to listen to any of em, not even on some nostalgic shit :dead:
add to that those disgusting Dance songs, he kinda corny actually..
Quote from: Boomer on October 10, 2016, 03:49:15 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 10, 2016, 03:03:52 PM
Usher is def' an Icon. :dead:
!!!
What did he do to get the hate he's getiing? :plzstop:
I consider him apart the same group of young r&b stars that rose in the 90's. With Bran, Liy. Throw Ginu' in there too. They are all R&B icons at the very least. Their contributions to the genre can't be denied.
!!!
b
Yep. That man has sustained success for over the span of three decades. And he is referenced by and influential to some of the newer generation's male artists.
Is he?
I've never heard anyone mention usher as an influence and that's forreal :dead:
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 10, 2016, 04:05:04 PM
add to that those disgusting Dance songs, he kinda corny actually..
ff
There is no doubt he has strayed in into the lane of lateness but for My Way, 8701 & Confessions alone...
That's 3 big eras. Half these hoes are lucky to have 2 big ones. Give this man his dew! :uhh:
He has been a mainstay in the game.
Here I Stand & Looking 4 Myself had some gems as well.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 04:02:26 PM
Yea, iono i just don't consider usher......like AT ALL. I have 3 of his albums (4 if u count the live one) and i don't go back to listen to any of em, not even on some nostalgic shit :dead:
h
Who cares if you listen or not? That doesn't make him less of an icon.
I actually liked the Raymond v Raymond album. But Usher's music doesn't give me that nostalgia the way Ginuwine's or R.Kelly's does.
I don't think anyone has denied his success.
d
That's not the debate here :shannonsmissing:
Ginuwine? Smsnsjjs
Ginuwine? B
He has ONE song that everybody knows.
Quote from: FAM? on October 10, 2016, 04:18:01 PM
Ginuwine? Smsnsjjs
Ginuwine? B
He has ONE song that everybody knows.
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...
Wow Pony is more iconic than any usher song
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 04:08:29 PM
Is he?
I've never heard anyone mention usher as an influence and that's forreal :dead:
In the very beginning, Chris would name Usher as one of his biggest influences constantly. But once he got as big as Ush' and became his peer, he stopped naming him as one of his influences (as a lot of these artists tend to do. See: Dawn). Now all he mentions is Michael. But you're not about to tell me a 12, 13 year old Chris wasn't inspired by Usher. Usher was at his peak when Chris was that age.
Ne-Yo used to name him as well.
Quote from: FINE. on October 10, 2016, 04:19:36 PM
Wow Pony is more iconic than any usher song
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Let's leave GODwine the fck outta this! I will turn on Ush' so quick
Quote from: Boomer on October 10, 2016, 04:19:50 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 04:08:29 PM
Is he?
I've never heard anyone mention usher as an influence and that's forreal :dead:
In the very beginning, Chris would name Usher as one of his biggest influences constantly. But once he got as big as Ush' and became his peer, he stopped naming him as one of his influences (as a lot of these artists tend to do. See: Dawn). Now all he mentions is Michael. But you're not about to tell me a 12, 13 year old Chris wasn't inspired by Usher. Usher was at his peak when Chris was that age.
Ne-Yo used to name him as well.
Now this i agree with, Omarion and a lot of the dudes that came out from 2005-8 referenced Ursh. He was kinda Beyonce's counterpart, but like someone said he tarnished his legacy.
Quote from: FAM? on October 10, 2016, 04:15:54 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 04:02:26 PM
Yea, iono i just don't consider usher......like AT ALL. I have 3 of his albums (4 if u count the live one) and i don't go back to listen to any of em, not even on some nostalgic shit :dead:
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Who cares if you listen or not? That doesn't make him less of an icon.
Ok, well im voicing my opinion. Ur welcome to have your own, fag
He ain't an icon imo :dead:
I can't think of one artist or hear a song and think damn "that's so Usher" :dead:
Quote from: Boomer on October 10, 2016, 04:21:22 PM
Quote from: FINE. on October 10, 2016, 04:19:36 PM
Wow Pony is more iconic than any usher song
fd
sds
ff
ds
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Let's leave GODwine the fck outta this! I will turn on Ush' so quick
!!!!
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-C10trNc2Wjg/TaC4icYxsSI/AAAAAAAAAb0/9-z2PlivJLw/s400/khia.gif)
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 04:08:29 PM
Is he?
I've never heard anyone mention usher as an influence and that's forreal :dead:
Quote from: FAM? on October 10, 2016, 04:18:01 PM
Ginuwine? Smsnsjjs
Ginuwine? B
He has ONE song that everybody knows.
r u well, beloved.
And yea, ginuwine's music>>>>>>>>
Quote from: pettypatty on October 10, 2016, 04:22:21 PM
I can't think of one artist or hear a song and think damn "that's so Usher" :dead:
!!!!!!!
After all these years Usher still doesn't have a "sound".
After that "Confessions" album I think every male artist at some point was inspired by Usher for a short period of time.
The thing is.... that influence didn't last
Quote from: FINE. on October 10, 2016, 04:22:25 PM
Quote from: Boomer on October 10, 2016, 04:21:22 PM
Quote from: FINE. on October 10, 2016, 04:19:36 PM
Wow Pony is more iconic than any usher song
fd
sds
ff
ds
f
Let's leave GODwine the fck outta this! I will turn on Ush' so quick
!!!!
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-C10trNc2Wjg/TaC4icYxsSI/AAAAAAAAAb0/9-z2PlivJLw/s400/khia.gif)
especially after that shit alber he just released
!!! at Usher & Beyonce being counterparts at one point, even after Confessions, Beyonce just left sis in the dust :uhh:
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 04:27:50 PM
!!! at Usher & Beyonce being counterparts at one point, even after Confessions, Beyonce just left sis in the dust :uhh:
:stressed:
Quote from: FINE. on October 10, 2016, 04:26:30 PM
Quote from: FINE. on October 10, 2016, 04:22:25 PM
Quote from: Boomer on October 10, 2016, 04:21:22 PM
Quote from: FINE. on October 10, 2016, 04:19:36 PM
Wow Pony is more iconic than any usher song
fd
sds
ff
ds
f
Let's leave GODwine the fck outta this! I will turn on Ush' so quick
!!!!
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-C10trNc2Wjg/TaC4icYxsSI/AAAAAAAAAb0/9-z2PlivJLw/s400/khia.gif)
especially after that shit alber he just released
Now that I think about...continue dragging this fag
I am still disgusted.
:overit:
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 04:27:50 PM
!!! at Usher & Beyonce being counterparts at one point, even after Confessions, Beyonce just left sis in the dust :uhh:
They really were. Usher just didn't have what it took to translate that popularity into great artistry at some point. Say what u want about Beyonce, she knew she had to evolve and becoming a staple in SOMETHING. Ironically Michael was the blueprint to ushers career and BEYONCE became the Michael Jackson of her time :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 04:32:53 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 04:27:50 PM
!!! at Usher & Beyonce being counterparts at one point, even after Confessions, Beyonce just left sis in the dust :uhh:
They really were. Usher just didn't have what it took to translate that popularity into great artistry at some point. Say what u want about Beyonce, she knew she had to evolve and becoming a staple in SOMETHING. Ironically Michael was the blueprint to ushers career and BEYONCE became the Michael Jackson of her time :dead:
!!!!!!!!
It's like she used Usher as a stepping stone jjjjjjj
It's crazy how you can get a diamond album one era and plat the next
but then he's been active since the 90's
But yea, that's usher's problem basically. He just isn't a great artist. He's nothing more than some hits in his hey day, no great artistry
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 04:35:13 PM
But yea, that's usher's problem basically. He just isn't a great artist. He's nothing more than some hits in his hey day, no great artistry
!!!!
He was just lucky to always have the right producers and writings giving him the right songs. And he always kept his image up
Well in Usher's defense. Usher and Brandy were the counterparts, when Bey replaced Bran around '03/'04 and it was only around 2011/2012 Bey left Usher completely in the dust.
Usher lasted long, but he just never left a true mark
guys
Whew! Love Ush' :traciandchelle:
Diamond album having flop self :justabit:
:dead:
I always thought Usher was nothing more than a sexed up MJ clone, but he did make a mark during his prime. The problem is his entire career post "Confessions" has been him jumping on one trend after the other and doing whatever he can to stay relevant.
Wouldn't be surprised if he did a reality show anytime soon tbh.
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 04:47:18 PM
doing whatever he can to stay relevant.
Wouldn't be surprised if he did a reality show anytime soon tbh.
!! like mariah
xvvvvvvvvv
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 04:54:38 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 04:47:18 PM
doing whatever he can to stay relevant.
Wouldn't be surprised if he did a reality show anytime soon tbh.
!! like mariah
:omgwatshappening:
Whew hope Jans pregnancy goes really well :stressed:
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Quote from: FINE. on October 10, 2016, 05:01:23 PM
Whew hope Jans pregnancy goes really well :stressed:
vvvvvbbbvvv
:omgwatshappening:
Yeah what he may lack vocally he made up for with his showmanship and charisma
then why can't i think of one memorable usher performance
I can think of three for Beyonce without even trying
!!!!
he really flew under the radar huh :uhh:
That's so true. Like what are usher's memorable performances?
If you have to ask, he's not.
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 10, 2016, 04:40:01 PM
Well in Usher's defense. Usher and Brandy were the counterparts, when Bey replaced Bran around '03/'04 and it was only around 2011/2012 Bey left Usher completely in the dust.
Usher lasted long, but he just never left a true mark
Bey kinda left him in the dust in 08 when Sasha destroyed the follow up to confessions
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 10, 2016, 04:40:01 PM
when Bey replaced Bran around '03/'04
Bey had NOTHING to do with Bran's career
:udontlookok:
The HATE for this man on this forum
I'm appalled
Not even reading this whole thread but he is undisputed
an Icon
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 05:46:13 PM
The HATE for this man on this forum
I'm appalled
Not even reading this whole thread but he is undisputed
an Icon
why is consistently overlooked for his peers
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 05:47:18 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 05:46:13 PM
The HATE for this man on this forum
I'm appalled
Not even reading this whole thread but he is undisputed
an Icon
why is consistently overlooked for his peers
he's not
especially his REAL peers Bran, Mo etc from the 90s R&B scene
or Ginuwine, Sisqo, Tyrese none of them still are anywhere near as popular as Usher is
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 05:46:13 PM
The HATE for this man on this forum
I'm appalled
Not even reading this whole thread but he is undisputed
an Icon
b
Legendary, to be frank
OMPF!
[youtube autoplay=1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMQmKROJUSM[/youtube]
How did this man not leave a mark when OUR fave BRANDY
was influenced by him to do Chicago like 9 years afterwards?
When Bey went to his show with Frank Garson to steal ideas?
Fuck outta here
ACKKKKKK
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 05:54:43 PM
How did this man not leave a mark when OUR fave BRANDY
was influenced by him to do Chicago like 9 years afterwards?
When Bey went to his show with Frank Garson to steal ideas?
Fuck outta here
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Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 05:54:43 PM
How did this man not leave a mark when OUR fave BRANDY
was influenced by him to do Chicago like 9 years afterwards?
When Bey went to his show with Frank Garson to steal ideas?
Fuck outta here
:shannonsmissing:
Is Ray making stuff up?
yh
Quote from: Boomer on October 10, 2016, 05:56:21 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 05:54:43 PM
How did this man not leave a mark when OUR fave BRANDY
was influenced by him to do Chicago like 9 years afterwards?
When Bey went to his show with Frank Garson to steal ideas?
Fuck outta here
:shannonsmissing:
was a lie told? :ATLcameo:
Boy...yes
receipts of the Bey statement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV5AYfVOR58
So Ray, are you calling Bey a thief?
(http://media.tumblr.com/228a8d93bd5dcbfe383834efc1550c6a/tumblr_inline_mrhbyhY2Vx1qz4rgp.gif)
receipt of Usher inspiring Bran to do Chicago :56 secs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3gpMmZhg90
so niggas what the fuck was the lie?
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 06:03:41 PM
So Ray, are you calling Bey a thief?
(http://media.tumblr.com/228a8d93bd5dcbfe383834efc1550c6a/tumblr_inline_mrhbyhY2Vx1qz4rgp.gif)
Bey called herself a thief there
:receipts:
So Ray, what would you say makes Usher an icon?
(http://media.tumblr.com/228a8d93bd5dcbfe383834efc1550c6a/tumblr_inline_mrhbyhY2Vx1qz4rgp.gif)
Quote from: FINE. on October 10, 2016, 05:01:23 PM
Whew hope Jans pregnancy goes really well :stressed:
I dont.
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 06:08:23 PM
So Ray, what would you say makes Usher an icon?
(http://media.tumblr.com/228a8d93bd5dcbfe383834efc1550c6a/tumblr_inline_mrhbyhY2Vx1qz4rgp.gif)
He's one of the most successful artists of all time
has a long list of classic hits
one of the best and most influential male performers, especially of anyone ALIVE today
or from the 90s
that pretty much summarizes it
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No. I wouldn't call him an "icon" so to say, but DEFINITELY a "superstar". He accomplished a lot in his career. As far as icon, I don't think he ever made his OWN lane or created something to be FOLLOWED. He always kinda mimicked his faves (ie. Michael Jackson). And I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with that, because there isn't. It just doesn't fit the mold of what I would consider an "icon". He made a mark on the industry no doubt.
Usher mimicked Michael to the extent that Brandy mimicked Whitney
niggas need to stop
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 06:23:14 PM
Usher mimicked Michael to the extent that Brandy mimicked Whitney
niggas need to stop
:uhh:
and while we're on Michael
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LE_TYTxRxg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwXDROrOb1k
Usher never took any artistic risks...
he started with an artistic risk
singing about sex at 13 yrs old
and no one knew for sure Crunk & b would pop off
he wanted Burn as the 1st single (which kinda paved the way for all the B Cox ballads)
instead of Yeah!, but he took the risk and that paid off
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 06:40:22 PM
he started with an artistic risk
singing about sex at 13 yrs old
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 06:40:22 PM
he started with an artistic risk
singing about sex at 13 yrs old
and no one knew for sure Crunk & b would pop off
he wanted Burn as the 1st single (which kinda paved the way for all the B Cox ballads)
instead of Yeah!, but he took the risk and that paid off
jjjnnnnnnnn
Very risky! lolz :flamebroiled:
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 06:25:19 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 06:23:14 PM
Usher mimicked Michael to the extent that Brandy mimicked Whitney
niggas need to stop
:uhh:
:kii:
Brandy was done "mimicking" whitney houston after her 1st album. Usher still doesnt have a style or sound of his own
Quote from: Ulysses on October 10, 2016, 06:15:47 PM
No. I wouldn't call him an "icon" so to say, but DEFINITELY a "superstar". He accomplished a lot in his career. As far as icon, I don't think he ever made his OWN lane or created something to be FOLLOWED. He always kinda mimicked his faves (ie. Michael Jackson). And I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with that, because there isn't. It just doesn't fit the mold of what I would consider an "icon". He made a mark on the industry no doubt.
The way everyone is saying the same thing :plzstop:
He ain't an icon, just a nigga that's been around for a long time, that's it
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 06:48:18 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 06:25:19 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 06:23:14 PM
Usher mimicked Michael to the extent that Brandy mimicked Whitney
niggas need to stop
:uhh:
:kii:
Brandy was done "mimicking" whitney houston after her 1st album.
n
she does Whitney runs, and constantly performs covers of her till this day
:kii:
hes just "been around" but who else from his generation was honored on the BET Honors?
let me know guys lolz
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 06:40:22 PM
he started with an artistic risk
singing about sex at 13 yrs old
and no one knew for sure Crunk & b would pop off
he wanted Burn as the 1st single (which kinda paved the way for all the B Cox ballads)
instead of Yeah!, but he took the risk and that paid off
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
The way BET came through with receipts
http://www.bet.com/shows/bet-honors/2015/photos/honorees/my-way-10-artists-usher-has-influenced.html#!012015-shows-honors-performers-trey-songz-performs
Woo! such an ICON
glad B Source OPINIONS dont trump the INDUSTRY receipts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHVHZcRGa9A
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 06:48:18 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 06:25:19 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 06:23:14 PM
Usher mimicked Michael to the extent that Brandy mimicked Whitney
niggas need to stop
:uhh:
:kii:
Brandy was done "mimicking" whitney houston after her 1st album. Usher still doesnt have a style or sound of his own
!!!
That's why I gave side-eye to his comment.
Brandy isn't a Whitney clone.
Usher been tryna give MJ era after era.
I wouldn't call Justin Timberlake an icon either. He & Usher are kinda in the same vein.
Justin just hasn't fallen off yet.
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 06:59:38 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 06:48:18 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 06:25:19 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 06:23:14 PM
Usher mimicked Michael to the extent that Brandy mimicked Whitney
niggas need to stop
:uhh:
:kii:
Brandy was done "mimicking" whitney houston after her 1st album. Usher still doesnt have a style or sound of his own
!!!
That's why I gave side-eye to his comment.
Brandy isn't a Whitney clone.
Usher been tryna give MJ era after era.
Michael Jackson was never about sex, and Urban or crunk like Usher
if Bran isnt a clone Usher isnt either
he's influenced by Michael's dancing like Bran is influenced by Whitney's vocals
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 06:59:38 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 06:48:18 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 06:25:19 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 06:23:14 PM
Usher mimicked Michael to the extent that Brandy mimicked Whitney
niggas need to stop
:uhh:
:kii:
Brandy was done "mimicking" whitney houston after her 1st album. Usher still doesnt have a style or sound of his own
!!!
That's why I gave side-eye to his comment.
Brandy isn't a Whitney clone.
Usher been tryna give MJ era after era.
And has never come close in any capacity. Usher is pretty middle of the road however u look at it
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 06:40:22 PM
he started with an artistic risk
singing about sex at 13 yrs old
that's not an artistic risk, that's exploitative and gross :uhh:
and I'm screaming at you bragging about this when you were just dragging Aaliyah's parents for allowing the R Kelly mess to go down
do better, Ray
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 07:01:38 PM
I wouldn't call Justin Timberlake an icon either. He & Usher are kinda in the same vein.
Justin just hasn't fallen off yet.
Yea, i don't necessarily see JT as an icon but im sure he'll be revered as such. From his HUGE career with Nsync to his massive solo success............still to this day, the whites are gonna treasure him i believe. How long did that terrible song sit at the top of itunes? No one else from his time could do that
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:07:47 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 06:40:22 PM
he started with an artistic risk
singing about sex at 13 yrs old
that's not an artistic risk, that's exploitative and gross :uhh:
and I'm screaming at you bragging about this when you were just dragging Aaliyah's parents for allowing the R Kelly mess to go down
do better, Ray
:plzstop:
JT is a Legend.
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:07:47 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 06:40:22 PM
he started with an artistic risk
singing about sex at 13 yrs old
that's not an artistic risk, that's exploitative and gross :uhh:
and I'm screaming at you bragging about this when you were just dragging Aaliyah's parents for allowing the R Kelly mess to go down
do better, Ray
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Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:09:40 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:07:47 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 06:40:22 PM
he started with an artistic risk
singing about sex at 13 yrs old
that's not an artistic risk, that's exploitative and gross :uhh:
and I'm screaming at you bragging about this when you were just dragging Aaliyah's parents for allowing the R Kelly mess to go down
do better, Ray
lkniuiyflutckyrxf ghjhkbjinj'9uy89t7p8r6od57icktyguvylbihojp9u'y89g7ylvibuon
AHASHSHAHUAAUDUXUXCCC
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:07:47 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 06:40:22 PM
he started with an artistic risk
singing about sex at 13 yrs old
that's not an artistic risk, that's exploitative and gross :uhh:
and I'm screaming at you bragging about this when you were just dragging Aaliyah's parents for allowing the R Kelly mess to go down
do better, Ray
that IS an artistic risk
he couldve easily went the safe Disney or tame virginal route but he did what most kids werent musically
and Aaliyah ACTUALLY fucking a grown man has no correlation
but you tried though
I dunno
MTV for example gave the Vanguard award to Bey, JT, Brit, Kanye and Rihanna, but Usher debuted years before all of them and is the only one with a Diamond selling album.
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 10, 2016, 07:10:32 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:09:40 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:07:47 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 06:40:22 PM
he started with an artistic risk
singing about sex at 13 yrs old
that's not an artistic risk, that's exploitative and gross :uhh:
and I'm screaming at you bragging about this when you were just dragging Aaliyah's parents for allowing the R Kelly mess to go down
do better, Ray
lkniuiyflutckyrxf ghjhkbjinj'9uy89t7p8r6od57icktyguvylbihojp9u'y89g7ylvibuon
AHASHSHAHUAAUDUXUXCCC
csddDFdfEfa
Im doing the stanky leg
defef who wasn't singing about sex in the 90's
:uhh:
and who said Im "bragging"? the album flopped
how is that a brag
Yummy put the cigs down bruh
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:11:04 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:07:47 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 06:40:22 PM
he started with an artistic risk
singing about sex at 13 yrs old
that's not an artistic risk, that's exploitative and gross :uhh:
and I'm screaming at you bragging about this when you were just dragging Aaliyah's parents for allowing the R Kelly mess to go down
do better, Ray
that IS an artistic risk
he couldve easily went the safe Disney or tame virginal route but he did what most kids werent musically
[youtube autoplay=1 start=27]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ob0yFBeQpo[/youtube]
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:11:15 PM
I dunno
MTV for example gave the Vanguard award to Bey, JT, Brit, Kanye and Rihanna, but Usher debuted years before all of them and is the only one with a Diamond selling album.
and BET gave the Musical Excellence award to him and none of them
but I guess the white award is better?
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:14:04 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:11:15 PM
I dunno
MTV for example gave the Vanguard award to Bey, JT, Brit, Kanye and Rihanna, but Usher debuted years before all of them and is the only one with a Diamond selling album.
and BET gave the Musical Excellence award to him and none of them
but I guess the white award is better?
yh
I'm sorry, but I don't consider Usher an icon.
Besides that 'Confessions' plaque, I just don't see it.
Where was Usher's mother when he was recording these R Kelly leftovers before he hit puberty? I'm disgusted.
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:12:26 PM
defef who wasn't singing about sex in the 90's
:uhh:
Brandy
Monica
Tevin Campbell
NSynce, BSB, Britney
Immature, you know the YOUNG artist
Usher is an R&B legend with more classics than any other artist his age. His catalog (minus the last 2 albums) is pretty much flawless. The Confessions album went Diamond and he was pretty much the biggest artist in the game at one point. Back in the 90's, everyone wanted to "dance like Usher" or had Usher posters on their walls. He was able to adapt at the start of the 2000's pioneering the futuristic Neptunes sound to R&B and later adapting and pioneering to the crunk sound with Lil Jon. Being adaptable is the key to longevity. His music is his impact. Like many artists who have huge blockbuster albums, though, it became his downfall. It took Polow leaking "Love In This Club" for him to even release another single. The impact of his previous album helped that song fly to #1 within weeks. But he steered away from his heartthrob image, got married, acted crazy on TRL defending Tameka, sued his biggest fansite for hating on his wife, and the Here I Stand album was a little too mature for his core audience. By 30, he was cooling off.
But is he iconic in the way Britney or Beyonce are?
No. And that's simply because outside of the music, there isn't really anything interesting about Usher. No iconic outfits, no real iconic routines (even though he is a phonemonal dancer) like "Remember The Time", "Thriller", "Vogue", "Rhythm Nation", "Single Ladies", "I'm A Slave 4 U"...... No snake, no metal glove or alter ego, no bodysuit with the ass out....
There's no frenzy. There's no real hype. He can probably walk down the street without causing too much of a commotion. And now he's sitting on The Voice alongside Shakira (who's being paid more). When Mariah did American Idol, she was paid the most. When Britney did X-Factor, she was paid the most. And sadly, that just makes him seem desperate and washed up. Not to mention, he's on Snapchat desperately taking nude pictures. Didn't he just star in a movie? If he were truly ICONIC, everything he does would in someway become an extension of his iconography. He's just regular as hell now.
Usher is an R&B legend. But he is not ICONIC.
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:15:21 PM
Where was Usher's mother when he was recording these R Kelly leftovers before he hit puberty? I'm disgusted.
she sent him to stay with Diddy
and he, has always said that wasnt the best place for a kid
the songs didnt sound like Molest at all though
more Jodeci
I mean I was just making a point that all those artist have been awarded the biggest award in music and they've consistently overlook Usher even though he came out before all of them and has one of the biggest albums of all time
The Vangaurd award isn't a "white" award, not when it's named after Michael Jackson
It's funny how MJ is his biggest infulence yet...
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
Usher is an R&B legend with more classics than any other artist his age. His catalog (minus the last 2 albums) is pretty much flawless. The Confessions album went Diamond and he was pretty much the biggest artist in the game at one point. Back in the 90's, everyone wanted to "dance like Usher" or had Usher posters on their walls. He was able to adapt at the start of the 2000's pioneering the futuristic Neptunes sound to R&B and later adapting and pioneering to the crunk sound with Lil Jon. Being adaptable is the key to longevity. His music is his impact. Like many artists who have huge blockbuster albums, though, it became his downfall. It took Polow leaking "Love In This Club" for him to even release another single. The impact of his previous album helped that song fly to #1 within weeks. But he steered away from his heartthrob image, got married, acted crazy on TRL defending Tameka, sued his biggest fansite for hating on his wife, and the Here I Stand album was a little too mature for his core audience. By 30, he was cooling off.
But is he iconic in the way Britney or Beyonce are?
No. And that's simply because outside of the music, there isn't really anything interesting about Usher. No iconic outfits, no real iconic routines (even though he is a phonemonal dancer) like "Remember The Time", "Thriller", "Vogue", "Rhythm Nation", "Single Ladies", "I'm A Slave 4 U"...... No snake, no metal glove or alter ego, no bodysuit with the ass out....
There's no frenzy. There's no real hype. He can probably walk down the street without causing too much of a commotion. And now he's sitting on The Voice alongside Shakira (who's being paid more). When Mariah did American Idol, she was paid the most. When Britney did X-Factor, she was paid the most. And sadly, that just makes him seem desperate and washed up. Not to mention, he's on Snapchat desperately taking nude pictures. Didn't he just star in a movie? If he were truly ICONIC, everything he does would in someway become an extension of his iconography. He's just regular as hell now.
Usher is an R&B legend. But he is not ICONIC.
omg bae
Let us put it like this. Remove his plaques and Billboard stats he wouldn't be shit. No iconic performances, no critical acclaim, no influence...
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:17:07 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:15:21 PM
Where was Usher's mother when he was recording these R Kelly leftovers before he hit puberty? I'm disgusted.
she sent him to stay with Diddy
and he, has always said that wasnt the best place for a kid
the songs didnt sound like Molest at all though
more Jodeci
So she was a neglectful parent who let her child be sexualized for a chance at stardom.
How sad.
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:15:33 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:12:26 PM
defef who wasn't singing about sex in the 90's
:uhh:
Brandy
Monica
Tevin Campbell
NSynce, BSB, Britney
Immature, you know the YOUNG artist
please everyone had some "mature" content :dead:
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
Back in the 90's, everyone wanted to "dance like Usher"
b
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
But is he iconic in the way Britney or Beyonce are?
No. And that's simply because outside of the music, there isn't really anything interesting about Usher. No iconic outfits, no real iconic routines (even though he is a phonemonal dancer) like "Remember The Time", "Thriller", "Vogue", "Rhythm Nation", "Single Ladies", "I'm A Slave 4 U"...... No snake, no metal glove or alter ego, no bodysuit with the ass out....
There's no frenzy. There's no real hype. He can probably walk down the street without causing too much of a commotion. And now he's sitting on The Voice alongside Shakira (who's being paid more). When Mariah did American Idol, she was paid the most. When Britney did X-Factor, she was paid the most. And sadly, that just makes him seem desperate and washed up. Not to mention, he's on Snapchat desperately taking nude pictures. Didn't he just star in a movie? If he were truly ICONIC, everything he does would in someway become an extension of his iconography. He's just regular as hell now.
Usher is an R&B legend. But he is not ICONIC.
this is BS and probably cuz you're gay
no offense
ppl are always invested in his love life first of all, hes not even on the Voice anymore
the moves at the end of Yeah! are Iconic
ppl definitely copied the Jeans & Blazer with fitted style during Confessions
I think he's just not "cunt" which is why you dont see him like Bey & Britney
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:17:07 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:15:21 PM
Where was Usher's mother when he was recording these R Kelly leftovers before he hit puberty? I'm disgusted.
she sent him to stay with Diddy
and he, has always said that wasnt the best place for a kid
the songs didnt sound like Molest at all though
more Jodeci
That makes it even worse. She allowed him to live in an environment not fit for a child.
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 07:20:43 PM
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
Back in the 90's, everyone wanted to "dance like Usher"
b
dddd who
i was busying tryna moonwalk like MJ and pop and SHIFT my neck like jans
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:18:33 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:15:33 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:12:26 PM
defef who wasn't singing about sex in the 90's
:uhh:
Brandy
Monica
Tevin Campbell
NSynce, BSB, Britney
Immature, you know the YOUNG artist
please everyone had some "mature" content :dead:
mature & flat out singing about having sex are different
Usher's debut was a complete 180 lyrically from Bran's
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:21:07 PM
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
But is he iconic in the way Britney or Beyonce are?
No. And that's simply because outside of the music, there isn't really anything interesting about Usher. No iconic outfits, no real iconic routines (even though he is a phonemonal dancer) like "Remember The Time", "Thriller", "Vogue", "Rhythm Nation", "Single Ladies", "I'm A Slave 4 U"...... No snake, no metal glove or alter ego, no bodysuit with the ass out....
There's no frenzy. There's no real hype. He can probably walk down the street without causing too much of a commotion. And now he's sitting on The Voice alongside Shakira (who's being paid more). When Mariah did American Idol, she was paid the most. When Britney did X-Factor, she was paid the most. And sadly, that just makes him seem desperate and washed up. Not to mention, he's on Snapchat desperately taking nude pictures. Didn't he just star in a movie? If he were truly ICONIC, everything he does would in someway become an extension of his iconography. He's just regular as hell now.
Usher is an R&B legend. But he is not ICONIC.
this is BS and probably cuz you're gay
no offense
bbb
Ray WTF?! :uhh: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:21:07 PM
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
But is he iconic in the way Britney or Beyonce are?
No. And that's simply because outside of the music, there isn't really anything interesting about Usher. No iconic outfits, no real iconic routines (even though he is a phonemonal dancer) like "Remember The Time", "Thriller", "Vogue", "Rhythm Nation", "Single Ladies", "I'm A Slave 4 U"...... No snake, no metal glove or alter ego, no bodysuit with the ass out....
There's no frenzy. There's no real hype. He can probably walk down the street without causing too much of a commotion. And now he's sitting on The Voice alongside Shakira (who's being paid more). When Mariah did American Idol, she was paid the most. When Britney did X-Factor, she was paid the most. And sadly, that just makes him seem desperate and washed up. Not to mention, he's on Snapchat desperately taking nude pictures. Didn't he just star in a movie? If he were truly ICONIC, everything he does would in someway become an extension of his iconography. He's just regular as hell now.
Usher is an R&B legend. But he is not ICONIC.
this is BS and probably cuz you're gay
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:18:15 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:17:07 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:15:21 PM
Where was Usher's mother when he was recording these R Kelly leftovers before he hit puberty? I'm disgusted.
she sent him to stay with Diddy
and he, has always said that wasnt the best place for a kid
the songs didnt sound like Molest at all though
more Jodeci
So she was a neglectful parent who let her child be sexualized for a chance at stardom.
How sad.
well not neglectful, but yea to the second part
and now he's an Icon
are we on topic or...
Blonde swooped in with truth tbh
Ray can i take the tampon out ur booty with my teeth?
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 07:15:04 PM
I'm sorry, but I don't consider Usher an icon.
Besides that 'Confessions' plaque, I just don't see it.
Yh, that's it and that's all. He had the opportunity to be one but he didn't seize it tbh. Trying to be hot at the moment. When ur a REAL iconic figure, u set the trend. U make us listen to whatever the fuck it is ur doing, not hopping on trends hoping u can still be a part of the crowd
Usher doesnt have to be cunt for us to recognise him as Iconic
Shit even JLo has more recognisable moments and she's already been awarded an "Icon" award before Usher
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 07:23:02 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:21:07 PM
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
But is he iconic in the way Britney or Beyonce are?
No. And that's simply because outside of the music, there isn't really anything interesting about Usher. No iconic outfits, no real iconic routines (even though he is a phonemonal dancer) like "Remember The Time", "Thriller", "Vogue", "Rhythm Nation", "Single Ladies", "I'm A Slave 4 U"...... No snake, no metal glove or alter ego, no bodysuit with the ass out....
There's no frenzy. There's no real hype. He can probably walk down the street without causing too much of a commotion. And now he's sitting on The Voice alongside Shakira (who's being paid more). When Mariah did American Idol, she was paid the most. When Britney did X-Factor, she was paid the most. And sadly, that just makes him seem desperate and washed up. Not to mention, he's on Snapchat desperately taking nude pictures. Didn't he just star in a movie? If he were truly ICONIC, everything he does would in someway become an extension of his iconography. He's just regular as hell now.
Usher is an R&B legend. But he is not ICONIC.
this is BS and probably cuz you're gay
no offense
bbb
Ray WTF?! :uhh: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
n
Im sorry but its clear as a damn bell
"Vogue! Bey! Brit! Iconic outfits!" if he was waiving a rainbow flag I bet it would be "Iconic" to him
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:23:35 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:18:15 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:17:07 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:15:21 PM
Where was Usher's mother when he was recording these R Kelly leftovers before he hit puberty? I'm disgusted.
she sent him to stay with Diddy
and he, has always said that wasnt the best place for a kid
the songs didnt sound like Molest at all though
more Jodeci
So she was a neglectful parent who let her child be sexualized for a chance at stardom.
How sad.
and now he's an Icon
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:12:36 PM
and who said Im "bragging"? the album flopped
:kii:
This thread is about to take a turn... :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
No iconic performances
No iconic pop culture moments
No iconic dances
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
Usher is an R&B legend with more classics than any other artist his age. His catalog (minus the last 2 albums) is pretty much flawless. The Confessions album went Diamond and he was pretty much the biggest artist in the game at one point. Back in the 90's, everyone wanted to "dance like Usher" or had Usher posters on their walls. He was able to adapt at the start of the 2000's pioneering the futuristic Neptunes sound to R&B and later adapting and pioneering to the crunk sound with Lil Jon. Being adaptable is the key to longevity. His music is his impact. Like many artists who have huge blockbuster albums, though, it became his downfall. It took Polow leaking "Love In This Club" for him to even release another single. The impact of his previous album helped that song fly to #1 within weeks. But he steered away from his heartthrob image, got married, acted crazy on TRL defending Tameka, sued his biggest fansite for hating on his wife, and the Here I Stand album was a little too mature for his core audience. By 30, he was cooling off.
But is he iconic in the way Britney or Beyonce are?
No. And that's simply because outside of the music, there isn't really anything interesting about Usher. No iconic outfits, no real iconic routines (even though he is a phonemonal dancer) like "Remember The Time", "Thriller", "Vogue", "Rhythm Nation", "Single Ladies", "I'm A Slave 4 U"...... No snake, no metal glove or alter ego, no bodysuit with the ass out....
There's no frenzy. There's no real hype. He can probably walk down the street without causing too much of a commotion. And now he's sitting on The Voice alongside Shakira (who's being paid more). When Mariah did American Idol, she was paid the most. When Britney did X-Factor, she was paid the most. And sadly, that just makes him seem desperate and washed up. Not to mention, he's on Snapchat desperately taking nude pictures. Didn't he just star in a movie? If he were truly ICONIC, everything he does would in someway become an extension of his iconography. He's just regular as hell now.
Usher is an R&B legend. But he is not ICONIC.
Best post in here tbh
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:25:13 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 07:23:02 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:21:07 PM
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
But is he iconic in the way Britney or Beyonce are?
No. And that's simply because outside of the music, there isn't really anything interesting about Usher. No iconic outfits, no real iconic routines (even though he is a phonemonal dancer) like "Remember The Time", "Thriller", "Vogue", "Rhythm Nation", "Single Ladies", "I'm A Slave 4 U"...... No snake, no metal glove or alter ego, no bodysuit with the ass out....
There's no frenzy. There's no real hype. He can probably walk down the street without causing too much of a commotion. And now he's sitting on The Voice alongside Shakira (who's being paid more). When Mariah did American Idol, she was paid the most. When Britney did X-Factor, she was paid the most. And sadly, that just makes him seem desperate and washed up. Not to mention, he's on Snapchat desperately taking nude pictures. Didn't he just star in a movie? If he were truly ICONIC, everything he does would in someway become an extension of his iconography. He's just regular as hell now.
Usher is an R&B legend. But he is not ICONIC.
this is BS and probably cuz you're gay
no offense
bbb
Ray WTF?! :uhh: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
n
Im sorry but its clear as a damn bell
"Vogue! Bey! Brit! Iconic outfits!" if he was waiving a rainbow flag I bet it would be "Iconic" to him
I guess you chose to miss out the parts where he referenced MJ right
I think i just attached Icon to how long Ush' has been around when i made my initial post.
Blonde was talking about popular moments, dances, or fashion statements that made the aforementioned artists iconic.
It had nothing to do with them being "cunt" :dead:
Usher doesnt have any of those which he mentioned, no real pop culture impact
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:24:44 PM
Usher doesnt have to be cunt for us to recognise him as Iconic
Shit even JLo
just proved my point
J Lo is a fashion Icon
ya'll love her
tell me a Male artist Usher's age that ya'll give props to?
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:25:42 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:23:35 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:18:15 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:17:07 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 07:15:21 PM
Where was Usher's mother when he was recording these R Kelly leftovers before he hit puberty? I'm disgusted.
she sent him to stay with Diddy
and he, has always said that wasnt the best place for a kid
the songs didnt sound like Molest at all though
more Jodeci
So she was a neglectful parent who let her child be sexualized for a chance at stardom.
How sad.
and now he's an Icon
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:12:36 PM
and who said Im "bragging"? the album flopped
:kii:
what does these statements...
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:28:35 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:24:44 PM
Usher doesnt have to be cunt for us to recognise him as Iconic
Shit even JLo
just proved my point
J Lo is a fashion Icon
ya'll love her
tell me a Male artist Usher's age that ya'll give props to?
EASY.
Kanye West.
He's an ICON.
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 10, 2016, 07:26:33 PM
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
Usher is an R&B legend with more classics than any other artist his age. His catalog (minus the last 2 albums) is pretty much flawless. The Confessions album went Diamond and he was pretty much the biggest artist in the game at one point. Back in the 90's, everyone wanted to "dance like Usher" or had Usher posters on their walls. He was able to adapt at the start of the 2000's pioneering the futuristic Neptunes sound to R&B and later adapting and pioneering to the crunk sound with Lil Jon. Being adaptable is the key to longevity. His music is his impact. Like many artists who have huge blockbuster albums, though, it became his downfall. It took Polow leaking "Love In This Club" for him to even release another single. The impact of his previous album helped that song fly to #1 within weeks. But he steered away from his heartthrob image, got married, acted crazy on TRL defending Tameka, sued his biggest fansite for hating on his wife, and the Here I Stand album was a little too mature for his core audience. By 30, he was cooling off.
But is he iconic in the way Britney or Beyonce are?
No. And that's simply because outside of the music, there isn't really anything interesting about Usher. No iconic outfits, no real iconic routines (even though he is a phonemonal dancer) like "Remember The Time", "Thriller", "Vogue", "Rhythm Nation", "Single Ladies", "I'm A Slave 4 U"...... No snake, no metal glove or alter ego, no bodysuit with the ass out....
There's no frenzy. There's no real hype. He can probably walk down the street without causing too much of a commotion. And now he's sitting on The Voice alongside Shakira (who's being paid more). When Mariah did American Idol, she was paid the most. When Britney did X-Factor, she was paid the most. And sadly, that just makes him seem desperate and washed up. Not to mention, he's on Snapchat desperately taking nude pictures. Didn't he just star in a movie? If he were truly ICONIC, everything he does would in someway become an extension of his iconography. He's just regular as hell now.
Usher is an R&B legend. But he is not ICONIC.
Best post in here tbh
whew yeah :feelinmyself:
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:26:54 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:25:13 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 07:23:02 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:21:07 PM
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
But is he iconic in the way Britney or Beyonce are?
No. And that's simply because outside of the music, there isn't really anything interesting about Usher. No iconic outfits, no real iconic routines (even though he is a phonemonal dancer) like "Remember The Time", "Thriller", "Vogue", "Rhythm Nation", "Single Ladies", "I'm A Slave 4 U"...... No snake, no metal glove or alter ego, no bodysuit with the ass out....
There's no frenzy. There's no real hype. He can probably walk down the street without causing too much of a commotion. And now he's sitting on The Voice alongside Shakira (who's being paid more). When Mariah did American Idol, she was paid the most. When Britney did X-Factor, she was paid the most. And sadly, that just makes him seem desperate and washed up. Not to mention, he's on Snapchat desperately taking nude pictures. Didn't he just star in a movie? If he were truly ICONIC, everything he does would in someway become an extension of his iconography. He's just regular as hell now.
Usher is an R&B legend. But he is not ICONIC.
this is BS and probably cuz you're gay
no offense
bbb
Ray WTF?! :uhh: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
n
Im sorry but its clear as a damn bell
"Vogue! Bey! Brit! Iconic outfits!" if he was waiving a rainbow flag I bet it would be "Iconic" to him
I guess you chose to miss out the parts where he referenced MJ right
MJ was cunt too tbh
"cunt"
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Yeah, this is pointless.
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:28:35 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:24:44 PM
Usher doesnt have to be cunt for us to recognise him as Iconic
Shit even JLo
just proved my point
J Lo is a fashion Icon
ya'll love her
tell me a Male artist Usher's age that ya'll give props to?
Justin Timberlake
Wait when did he act crazy on trl vvcvvbb
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:28:35 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:24:44 PM
Usher doesnt have to be cunt for us to recognise him as Iconic
Shit even JLo
just proved my point
J Lo is a fashion Icon
ya'll love her
tell me a Male artist Usher's age that ya'll give props to?
none, because there IS none :dead:
and she's also an award winning actress, known for her romantic life, and one of the biggest business woman in music, her legacy goes beyond music
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:21:07 PM
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
But is he iconic in the way Britney or Beyonce are?
No. And that's simply because outside of the music, there isn't really anything interesting about Usher. No iconic outfits, no real iconic routines (even though he is a phonemonal dancer) like "Remember The Time", "Thriller", "Vogue", "Rhythm Nation", "Single Ladies", "I'm A Slave 4 U"...... No snake, no metal glove or alter ego, no bodysuit with the ass out....
There's no frenzy. There's no real hype. He can probably walk down the street without causing too much of a commotion. And now he's sitting on The Voice alongside Shakira (who's being paid more). When Mariah did American Idol, she was paid the most. When Britney did X-Factor, she was paid the most. And sadly, that just makes him seem desperate and washed up. Not to mention, he's on Snapchat desperately taking nude pictures. Didn't he just star in a movie? If he were truly ICONIC, everything he does would in someway become an extension of his iconography. He's just regular as hell now.
Usher is an R&B legend. But he is not ICONIC.
this is BS and probably cuz you're gay
no offense
ppl are always invested in his love life first of all, hes not even on the Voice anymore
the moves at the end of Yeah! are Iconic
ppl definitely copied the Jeans & Blazer with fitted style during Confessions
I think he's just not "cunt" which is why you dont see him like Bey & Britney
what the hell
oops at Justin & Kanye
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:30:37 PM
"cunt"
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Yeah, this is pointless.
:plzstop:
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:29:33 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:28:35 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:24:44 PM
Usher doesnt have to be cunt for us to recognise him as Iconic
Shit even JLo
just proved my point
J Lo is a fashion Icon
ya'll love her
tell me a Male artist Usher's age that ya'll give props to?
EASY.
Kanye West.
He's an ICON.
king is in his own league LMAO
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 10, 2016, 07:28:08 PM
I think i just attached Icon to how long Ush' has been around when i made my initial post.
Yea and i think that's why some would say he is but really he's just a vet in the music business tbh :dead:
dfgf not it being because we're gay
no luv, it's because he's BORING
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:28:20 PM
Blonde was talking about popular moments, dances, or fashion statements that made the aforementioned artists iconic.
It had nothing to do with them being "cunt" :dead:
Usher doesnt have any of those which he mentioned, no real pop culture impact
yes he does
him & chilli's whole relationship was a huge pop culture moment
and the whole "do the A-Town STOMP!" part of Yeah was a dance craze
and most men wear pretty much standard clothes
but the fitted cap, Blazer & Jeans look was definitely a fashion trend for men
ya'll just dot recognize because he's not a female swinging around a wig
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:28:20 PM
Blonde was talking about popular moments, dances, or fashion statements that made the aforementioned artists iconic.
It had nothing to do with them being "cunt" :dead:
Usher doesnt have any of those which he mentioned, no real pop culture impact
yes he does
him & chilli's whole relationship was a huge pop culture moment
and the whole "do the A-Town STOMP!" part of Yeah was a dance craze
and most men wear pretty much standard clothes
but the fitted cap, Blazer & Jeans look was definitely a fashion trend for men
ya'll just dot recognize because he's not a female swinging around a wig
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:29:33 PM
Kanye West.
He's an ICON.
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:28:20 PM
Blonde was talking about popular moments, dances, or fashion statements that made the aforementioned artists iconic.
It had nothing to do with them being "cunt" :dead:
Usher doesnt have any of those which he mentioned, no real pop culture impact
yes he does
him & chilli's whole relationship was a huge pop culture moment
and the whole "do the A-Town STOMP!" part of Yeah was a dance craze
and most men wear pretty much standard clothes
but the fitted cap, Blazer & Jeans look was definitely a fashion trend for men
ya'll just dot recognize because he's not a female swinging around a wig
I dunno luv, cause they go up for Chris brown crack head self
I think it's just usher, not bsource
OMFG @ A-Town Stomp.
The way i just pissed these briefs...
not the a town stomp
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:33:38 PM
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:29:33 PM
Kanye West.
He's an ICON.
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
no comment?
:overit:
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 07:30:52 PM
Wait when did he act crazy on trl vvcvvbb
I think when everyone called tamika ugly or whatever. Not even this moment is memorable tbh
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 07:30:52 PM
Wait when did he act crazy on trl vvcvvbb
when he was married
I think MANeka put a root on him tbh
n
This nigga said the A-Towm Stomp snsnksMAMSMSMSMSM
ray bye!
egrehatngbzdf\dvsewgR5HWYJTRAHERYGDFVX
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 07:34:06 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:28:20 PM
Blonde was talking about popular moments, dances, or fashion statements that made the aforementioned artists iconic.
It had nothing to do with them being "cunt" :dead:
Usher doesnt have any of those which he mentioned, no real pop culture impact
yes he does
him & chilli's whole relationship was a huge pop culture moment
and the whole "do the A-Town STOMP!" part of Yeah was a dance craze
and most men wear pretty much standard clothes
but the fitted cap, Blazer & Jeans look was definitely a fashion trend for men
ya'll just dot recognize because he's not a female swinging around a wig
I dunno luv, cause they go up for Chris brown crack head self
I think it's just usher, not bsource
who is "they"?
he gets dragged on here, and the only ppl who praise him just wanna fuck
Quote from: FAM? on October 10, 2016, 07:35:16 PM
This nigga said the A-Towm Stomp snsnksMAMSMSMSMSM
ray bye!
I mean everytime "Yeah! plays ya'll can act dumb
but everyone kinda gets right in step
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: FAM? on October 10, 2016, 07:35:16 PM
This nigga said the A-Towm Stomp snsnksMAMSMSMSMSM
ray bye!
I mean everytime "Yeah! plays ya'll can act dumb
but everyone kinda gets right in step
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
I will give ray that. Usher's most iconic thing was dating chili, people still want them together to this day........nothing musically or music related tho :dead:
DFGFDD what clubs do you frequent ray
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:35:02 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 07:30:52 PM
Wait when did he act crazy on trl vvcvvbb
I think when everyone called tamika ugly or whatever. Not even this moment is memorable tbh
but you remember it?
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:37:06 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: FAM? on October 10, 2016, 07:35:16 PM
This nigga said the A-Towm Stomp snsnksMAMSMSMSMSM
ray bye!
I mean everytime "Yeah! plays ya'll can act dumb
but everyone kinda gets right in step
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
:kii: :kii: :kii:
R&B icon definitely.
I see him as the male version of Toni Braxton
Huge songs, huge albums, big sales, but lack the impact on wider pop culture
but they made a big mark in R&B
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:28:20 PM
Blonde was talking about popular moments, dances, or fashion statements that made the aforementioned artists iconic.
It had nothing to do with them being "cunt" :dead:
Usher doesnt have any of those which he mentioned, no real pop culture impact
yes he does
him & chilli's whole relationship was a huge pop culture moment
and the whole "do the A-Town STOMP!" part of Yeah was a dance craze
and most men wear pretty much standard clothes
but the fitted cap, Blazer & Jeans look was definitely a fashion trend for men
ya'll just dot recognize because he's not a female swinging around a wig
Please tell me you're joking :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
How is singing about sex @ 13 risky when it's ur debut n
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:37:58 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:35:02 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 07:30:52 PM
Wait when did he act crazy on trl vvcvvbb
I think when everyone called tamika ugly or whatever. Not even this moment is memorable tbh
but you remember it?
Only after it was brought up. I wouldve never thought about that otherwise. We sit and laugh about mariah being bat shit crazy on trl because it was a moment that people really talked about and still do if ur watching wendy williams. Someone had to bring up usher and even then the response was WHAT
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: FAM? on October 10, 2016, 07:35:16 PM
This nigga said the A-Towm Stomp snsnksMAMSMSMSMSM
ray bye!
I mean everytime "Yeah! plays ya'll can act dumb
but everyone kinda gets right in step
abbbbbb
I have honestly NEVER seen anyone do that dance :plzstop:
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 07:42:21 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: FAM? on October 10, 2016, 07:35:16 PM
This nigga said the A-Towm Stomp snsnksMAMSMSMSMSM
ray bye!
I mean everytime "Yeah! plays ya'll can act dumb
but everyone kinda gets right in step
abbbbbb
I have honestly NEVER seen anyone do that dance :plzstop:
NEVER
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 07:42:21 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: FAM? on October 10, 2016, 07:35:16 PM
This nigga said the A-Towm Stomp snsnksMAMSMSMSMSM
ray bye!
I mean everytime "Yeah! plays ya'll can act dumb
but everyone kinda gets right in step
abbbbbb
I have honestly NEVER seen anyone do that dance :plzstop:
im literally cryin
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:40:46 PM
I see him as the male version of Toni Braxton
Huge songs, huge albums, big sales, but lack the impact on wider pop culture
but they made a big mark in R&B
But even toni>>>>>>>
She has an ICONIC sound and style. She's had iconic moments. Before jlos dress, TONI was the one that had the showstopping dress. She's more of a legend imo tbh
EEK.
can you imagine seeing someone do the A-town stomp in 2016? I cant.
Hhfggjjjjjh
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 07:42:21 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: FAM? on October 10, 2016, 07:35:16 PM
This nigga said the A-Towm Stomp snsnksMAMSMSMSMSM
ray bye!
I mean everytime "Yeah! plays ya'll can act dumb
but everyone kinda gets right in step
abbbbbb
I have honestly NEVER seen anyone do that dance :plzstop:
EVER! But maybe in ATL, who knows :dead:
Every time Jan's "If" comes on people wait for the break down and try that dance.
Same with Bey's "Single Ladies".
I've NEVER seen anyone do that with an Usher song.
What the hell is the A Town stomp? I remember the Pop Lock & Drop it, the Nina pop, the dougie, even the damn motorcycle, but I have never seen the A Town Stomp executed. :dead:
asddsdcvbfzxxvxs
What's the "if" dance
Quote from: Kaeli. on October 10, 2016, 07:45:13 PM
What the hell is the A Town stomp? I remember the Pop Lock & Drop it, the Nina pop, the dougie, even the damn motorcycle, but I have never seen the A Town Stomp executed. :dead:
asddsdcvbfzxxvxs
nhsjsh
Bitch not the laffy taffy and the stanky leg
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 07:44:58 PM
Every time Jan's "If" comes on people wait for the break down and try that dance.
v
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p48Mb51c0_w
b
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 10, 2016, 07:46:03 PM
What's the "if" dance
oikm scraeming
may really tried to sneak that in
single ladie!
mj moonwalk!
if!
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 10, 2016, 07:46:03 PM
What's the "if" dance
Fhfhfhfhfhx. Yea... ion know about that one May'
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:46:22 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on October 10, 2016, 07:45:13 PM
What the hell is the A Town stomp? I remember the Pop Lock & Drop it, the Nina pop, the dougie, even the damn motorcycle, but I have never seen the A Town Stomp executed. :dead:
asddsdcvbfzxxvxs
nhsjsh
Bitch not the laffy taffy and the stanky leg
adsdsdscvhgdxvvdhnnfdsgbj
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 07:46:54 PM
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 10, 2016, 07:46:03 PM
What's the "if" dance
oikm scraeming
may really tried to sneak that in
single ladie!
mj moonwalk!
if!
bbbbbbnnjifdcvjb :plzstop:
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 10, 2016, 07:46:03 PM
What's the "if" dance
Boy.........i hear that breakdown music in my head as i type. Do better
May girl
May you should've said Rythym Nation.
Idk wtf a "If" dance is.
Quote from: Kaeli. on October 10, 2016, 07:46:45 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p48Mb51c0_w
b
jdjddjjeejejejjsueus
This roach stomp
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 10, 2016, 07:48:42 PM
May you should've said Rythym Nation.
Idk wtf a "If" dance is.
!!!
i can whip out a hat and pull an RN1814
:supluv:
How can u not know the if breakdown :dead:
U may not KNOW it but u should definitely know what he's talkn bout
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:48:08 PM
May girl
That dance is iconic, and everyone in here tryna kii knows it.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:50:08 PM
How can u not know the if breakdown :dead:
U may not KNOW it but u should definitely know what he's talkn bout
b
They do
v
im not lying for a kii
lemme watch the video
frrt he's talking about the dance break in the "IF" video with the Egyptian arm chops and fucking shuffles
Sorry I really don't know lol. I do know the RN break down though
am doing it right now :popeyes:
Did Ci do it at the awards?
I don't think I've ever heard "if"
And the cis should ESPECIALLY know it, wasnt that what ciara's uncoordinated ass attempted while FLAILING across that damn BET stage :dead:
Please, that's definitely an iconic dance
Oh yes I have just wasn't clicking
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:50:08 PM
How can u not know the if breakdown :dead:
U may not KNOW it but u should definitely know what he's talkn bout
Ive NEVER watched the video for that song.
Like im sure a lot of people haven't. Its not far fetched.
oh, i know what this is
but rhythm nation is more iconic
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:52:40 PM
And the cis should ESPECIALLY know it, wasnt that what ciara's uncoordinated ass attempted while FLAILING across that damn BET stage :dead:
Please, that's definitely an iconic dance
bsvbfbjbbbb
Not them tryna to erase it from their memory
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:37:19 PM
I will give ray that. Usher's most iconic thing was dating chili, people still want them together to this day........nothing musically or music related tho :dead:
They do?
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 10, 2016, 07:53:01 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:50:08 PM
How can u not know the if breakdown :dead:
U may not KNOW it but u should definitely know what he's talkn bout
Ive NEVER watched the video for that song.
Like im sure a lot of people haven't. Its not far fetched.
!!!
I'm not trying to be funny sjdjdjxc
Vonc is like a Stan so of course he would know it
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:52:40 PM
And the cis should ESPECIALLY know it, wasnt that what ciara's uncoordinated ass attempted while FLAILING across that damn BET stage :dead:
Please, that's definitely an iconic dance
No one below 30 is familiar with "If"...
Ci would always name that as her favorite song and I never heard it.
I barely know tran's mess but I know this dance break cause of the bet awards and jayden's gifs
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 07:53:28 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:52:40 PM
And the cis should ESPECIALLY know it, wasnt that what ciara's uncoordinated ass attempted while FLAILING across that damn BET stage :dead:
Please, that's definitely an iconic dance
bsvbfbjbbbb
Not them tryna to erase it from their memory
I mean have u SEEN the mess? Can't blame em :kii:
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:28:20 PM
Blonde was talking about popular moments, dances, or fashion statements that made the aforementioned artists iconic.
It had nothing to do with them being "cunt" :dead:
Usher doesnt have any of those which he mentioned, no real pop culture impact
yes he does
him & chilli's whole relationship was a huge pop culture moment
and the whole "do the A-Town STOMP!" part of Yeah was a dance craze
and most men wear pretty much standard clothes
but the fitted cap, Blazer & Jeans look was definitely a fashion trend for men
ya'll just dot recognize because he's not a female swinging around a wig
Nigga, please. You're playing, right?
That "blazer/hat" look you're referring to is thanks to Russell Simmon and Phat Farm's 2003 line an ENTIRE YEAR before Usher started purchasing the clothes and dressing that way. Usher did not start anything.
(http://i.imgur.com/caXjrAQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/hkn31dg.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/bOdYjzZ.jpg)
He was a FAN like everyone else!
(http://i.imgur.com/sd5alMx.jpg)
And you can't possibly think that's the same as these???
(http://i.imgur.com/HkbW1Kq.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/FTsprH2.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/LWmSIym.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1er4VAe.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/okNYGeA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qxzpAqE.jpg)
STOP!
And boy, show me the impact of the GOD DAMN A-Town stomp? Where???? The "A-Town Stomp" was shit they were already doing in the club in Atlanta. He didn't create anything. He was just naming popular Atlanta dances at the end of "Yeah!". Your examples are AWFUL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBSrXta7XSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgguEZCE3Dk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnk7lh9M3o
I'll wait for you to show me 300 niggas in blazers and fitteds & a Phat Farm Jean doing the A-Town Stomp.
:kii:
Do you fags think someone sits up and looks up the HISTORY of every Ciara dance move?
Nobody is trying to lie @ Janets expense
And the fact that only HUGE jans fans are familiar should tell you something
DING DING DING
KNKNOFI not no one below 30
bitch how OLD are you
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 10, 2016, 07:53:55 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 10, 2016, 07:53:01 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:50:08 PM
How can u not know the if breakdown :dead:
U may not KNOW it but u should definitely know what he's talkn bout
Ive NEVER watched the video for that song.
Like im sure a lot of people haven't. Its not far fetched.
!!!
I'm not trying to be funny sjdjdjxc
Vonc is like a Stan so of course he would know it
!!
'of course u know!'
faggots, do you know every god damn ciara song and leak?
PROBABLY not, you're not Ci stans
sit back
(http://i49.tinypic.com/nyh387.jpg)
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:55:20 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:28:20 PM
Blonde was talking about popular moments, dances, or fashion statements that made the aforementioned artists iconic.
It had nothing to do with them being "cunt" :dead:
Usher doesnt have any of those which he mentioned, no real pop culture impact
yes he does
him & chilli's whole relationship was a huge pop culture moment
and the whole "do the A-Town STOMP!" part of Yeah was a dance craze
and most men wear pretty much standard clothes
but the fitted cap, Blazer & Jeans look was definitely a fashion trend for men
ya'll just dot recognize because he's not a female swinging around a wig
Nigga, please. You're playing, right?
That "blazer/hat" look you're referring to is thanks to Russell Simmon and Phat Farm's 2003 line an ENTIRE YEAR before Usher started purchasing the clothes and dressing that way. Usher did not start anything.
(http://i.imgur.com/caXjrAQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/hkn31dg.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/bOdYjzZ.jpg)
He was a FAN like everyone else!
(http://i.imgur.com/sd5alMx.jpg)
And you can't possibly think that's the same as these???
(http://i.imgur.com/HkbW1Kq.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/FTsprH2.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/LWmSIym.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1er4VAe.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/okNYGeA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qxzpAqE.jpg)
STOP!
And boy, show me the impact of the GOD DAMN A-Town stomp? Where???? The "A-Town Stomp" was shit they were already doing in the club in Atlanta. He didn't create anything. He was just naming popular Atlanta dances at the end of "Yeah!". Your examples are AWFUL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBSrXta7XSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgguEZCE3Dk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnk7lh9M3o
I'll wait for you to show me 300 niggas in blazers and fitteds & a Phat Farm Jean doing the A-Town Stomp.
:kii:
AHHHHHN
'preme faggot you used to be a jans
you telling me you can shimmy it out to I Get Lonely but not know the IF 8 count
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 07:55:24 PM
Do you fags think someone sits up and looks up the HISTORY of every Ciara dance move?
Nobody is trying to lie @ Janets expense
And the fact that only HUGE jans fans are familiar should tell you something
DING DING DING
Only HUGE jans fans. They added it to a tribute because it's one of her most known dances. Why would they choose to tribute her with some mess no one knows? Please :kii:
Ray hun'
These gorls are a kii. Just Google Jan's mess.
Fuck this ape
So u can remember everything else ci does but not a damn DANCE TRIBUTE she did on a fckn award show? Like let's be real, she isn't being thrown award show performances at this point, there's no excuse to not remember :dead:
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:58:02 PM
'preme faggot you used to be a jans
you telling me you can shimmy it out to I Get Lonely but not know the IF 8 count
I reconigized it once I saw the video
But it wasn't something that IMMEDIATELY popped up in my head
That was my point.
To me, it was just another great moment in her videography, but no RN or Scream
Hell, I know the 'Lonely' choreography immediately. Hats, arm swings, gay backup dancers.
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 07:59:10 PM
These gorls are a kii. Just Google Jan's mess.
I did
But I don't need no one telling me whats inside my memory bank
:overit:
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 08:00:03 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:58:02 PM
'preme faggot you used to be a jans
you telling me you can shimmy it out to I Get Lonely but not know the IF 8 count
I reconigized it once I saw the video
But it wasn't something that IMMEDIATELY popped up in my head
That was my point.
To me, it was just another great moment in her videography, but no RN or Scream
Hell, I know the 'Lonely' choreography immediately. Hats, arm swings, gay backup dancers.
they were female back up dancers luv
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51N6OImh0IL.jpg)
tran's miss u much chair dance and her pleasure principle solo performance are rly iconic too
I am kicking and screaming at the A town stomp
ddxxxxxxxdxxxxx
Quote from: FAM? on October 10, 2016, 07:59:34 PM
Fuck this ape
dsfjkkkkkkkkk
lets just get back to Usher guys
Quote from: pettypatty on October 10, 2016, 08:01:24 PM
I am kicking and screaming at the A town stomp
ddxxxxxxxdxxxxx
EGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 08:00:50 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 08:00:03 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:58:02 PM
'preme faggot you used to be a jans
you telling me you can shimmy it out to I Get Lonely but not know the IF 8 count
I reconigized it once I saw the video
But it wasn't something that IMMEDIATELY popped up in my head
That was my point.
To me, it was just another great moment in her videography, but no RN or Scream
Hell, I know the 'Lonely' choreography immediately. Hats, arm swings, gay backup dancers.
they were female back up dancers luv
His memory is SHIT
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:59:58 PM
So u can remember everything else ci does but not a damn DANCE TRIBUTE she did on a fckn award show? Like let's be real, she isn't being thrown award show performances at this point, there's no excuse to not remember :dead:
Did you miss the part where I said
'Do you think Ciara fans study the history of her every dance move'?
Because, that's what I said.
If you got 'I don't remember Ciara performances' from that, then you can't read or you're desperately looking for ways to make snide remarks lol.
Get it together
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 08:00:53 PM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51N6OImh0IL.jpg)
i smell cinnamon rolls
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 10, 2016, 08:00:58 PM
tran's miss u much chair dance and her pleasure principle solo performance are rly iconic too
I love the miss u much choreography........and escapade as well :stressed:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 08:01:49 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 08:00:50 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 08:00:03 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:58:02 PM
'preme faggot you used to be a jans
you telling me you can shimmy it out to I Get Lonely but not know the IF 8 count
I reconigized it once I saw the video
But it wasn't something that IMMEDIATELY popped up in my head
That was my point.
To me, it was just another great moment in her videography, but no RN or Scream
Hell, I know the 'Lonely' choreography immediately. Hats, arm swings, gay backup dancers.
they were female back up dancers luv
His memory is SHIT
remember this: I HOPE YOU DIE
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 08:02:39 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 08:01:49 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 08:00:50 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 08:00:03 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:58:02 PM
'preme faggot you used to be a jans
you telling me you can shimmy it out to I Get Lonely but not know the IF 8 count
I reconigized it once I saw the video
But it wasn't something that IMMEDIATELY popped up in my head
That was my point.
To me, it was just another great moment in her videography, but no RN or Scream
Hell, I know the 'Lonely' choreography immediately. Hats, arm swings, gay backup dancers.
they were female back up dancers luv
His memory is SHIT
remember this: I HOPE YOU DIE
:omgwatshappening:
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 08:02:39 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 08:01:49 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 08:00:50 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 08:00:03 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:58:02 PM
'preme faggot you used to be a jans
you telling me you can shimmy it out to I Get Lonely but not know the IF 8 count
I reconigized it once I saw the video
But it wasn't something that IMMEDIATELY popped up in my head
That was my point.
To me, it was just another great moment in her videography, but no RN or Scream
Hell, I know the 'Lonely' choreography immediately. Hats, arm swings, gay backup dancers.
they were female back up dancers luv
His memory is SHIT
remember this: I HOPE YOU DIE
What the fucks
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 08:02:39 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 08:01:49 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 08:00:50 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 08:00:03 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:58:02 PM
'preme faggot you used to be a jans
you telling me you can shimmy it out to I Get Lonely but not know the IF 8 count
I reconigized it once I saw the video
But it wasn't something that IMMEDIATELY popped up in my head
That was my point.
To me, it was just another great moment in her videography, but no RN or Scream
Hell, I know the 'Lonely' choreography immediately. Hats, arm swings, gay backup dancers.
they were female back up dancers luv
His memory is SHIT
remember this: I HOPE YOU DIE
SDKGYHJHHHHHHHHHJHHHHHHHHHHHH
:omgwatshappening:
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 08:02:39 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 08:01:49 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 08:00:50 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 08:00:03 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:58:02 PM
'preme faggot you used to be a jans
you telling me you can shimmy it out to I Get Lonely but not know the IF 8 count
I reconigized it once I saw the video
But it wasn't something that IMMEDIATELY popped up in my head
That was my point.
To me, it was just another great moment in her videography, but no RN or Scream
Hell, I know the 'Lonely' choreography immediately. Hats, arm swings, gay backup dancers.
they were female back up dancers luv
His memory is SHIT
remember this: I HOPE YOU DIE
sddsdddddddddddd
:omgwatshappening:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9e/16/72/9e16727885a72a5565a4270ce56555c4.jpg)
(http://thatgrapejuice.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/swv-i-missed-us.jpg)
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:55:20 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:28:20 PM
Blonde was talking about popular moments, dances, or fashion statements that made the aforementioned artists iconic.
It had nothing to do with them being "cunt" :dead:
Usher doesnt have any of those which he mentioned, no real pop culture impact
yes he does
him & chilli's whole relationship was a huge pop culture moment
and the whole "do the A-Town STOMP!" part of Yeah was a dance craze
and most men wear pretty much standard clothes
but the fitted cap, Blazer & Jeans look was definitely a fashion trend for men
ya'll just dot recognize because he's not a female swinging around a wig
Nigga, please. You're playing, right?
That "blazer/hat" look you're referring to is thanks to Russell Simmon and Phat Farm's 2003 line an ENTIRE YEAR before Usher started purchasing the clothes and dressing that way. Usher did not start anything.
(http://i.imgur.com/caXjrAQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/hkn31dg.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/bOdYjzZ.jpg)
He was a FAN like everyone else!
(http://i.imgur.com/sd5alMx.jpg)
And you can't possibly think that's the same as these???
(http://i.imgur.com/HkbW1Kq.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/FTsprH2.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/LWmSIym.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1er4VAe.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/okNYGeA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qxzpAqE.jpg)
STOP!
And boy, show me the impact of the GOD DAMN A-Town stomp? Where???? The "A-Town Stomp" was shit they were already doing in the club in Atlanta. He didn't create anything. He was just naming popular Atlanta dances at the end of "Yeah!". Your examples are AWFUL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBSrXta7XSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgguEZCE3Dk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnk7lh9M3o
I'll wait for you to show me 300 niggas in blazers and fitteds & a Phat Farm Jean doing the A-Town Stomp.
:kii:
ddddxdxdddxddx
Come thru with the RECEIPTS! :plzstop:
SFGHJBVCXCVBNXMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMC
(http://gonetworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/countess-vaughn-net-worth1.jpg)
sorry
my blood pressure went up a bit
i was kidding hehe
(http://i.imgur.com/zCuqPOt.gif)
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Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 10, 2016, 08:06:57 PM
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f
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Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 08:07:08 PM
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bdbshsbshshshdhhdjhshshshhs
Indeed.
That fckn book report blonde put together :dead:
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 10, 2016, 08:07:58 PM
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do u rlly have blue eyes
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 08:07:08 PM
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DDFGDKKDKFKDKDKDKSKKDMDSMMDMM
Quote from: FINE. on October 10, 2016, 08:06:01 PM
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ffffffffffc
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e8/Sa_Deuce.jpg)
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 10, 2016, 08:07:58 PM
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is this for Halloween
Ray got BOOKED in here :dead:
Did he disappear again :sobusyjetsetter:
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 10, 2016, 08:07:58 PM
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:-(
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 08:08:42 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 10, 2016, 08:07:58 PM
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do u rlly have blue eyes
dsdsjdjd
yea. celebslike.com matched me with some whites.
It runs in the fam'
(http://i.imgur.com/geRDpL5.gif)
sdddddddddddddddddddddddddd
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 10, 2016, 08:12:30 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 08:08:42 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 10, 2016, 08:07:58 PM
(http://i0.wp.com/blackgirllonghair.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/FullSizeRender-2-2.jpg?resize=559%2C641)
do u rlly have blue eyes
dsdsjdjd
yea. celebslike.com matched me with some whites.
It runs in the fam'
(http://i.imgur.com/geRDpL5.gif)
:plzstop:
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 08:07:08 PM
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VCCVBBNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
d
22 pages :dead: :plzstop:
yeah hun they dragged the FCK outta mya
:dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 08:36:05 PM
yeah hun they dragged the FCK outta mya
:dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
Cool. Thanks for informing me. :dead:
Quote from: Lazarus on October 10, 2016, 08:36:58 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 08:36:05 PM
yeah hun they dragged the FCK outta mya
:dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
Cool. Thanks for informing me. :dead:
u kno i got ya back boo
:flamebroiled:
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 08:38:52 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on October 10, 2016, 08:36:58 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 08:36:05 PM
yeah hun they dragged the FCK outta mya
:dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
Cool. Thanks for informing me. :dead:
u kno i got ya back boo
:flamebroiled:
I'm sure. lolz :dead: :plzstop:
mya is so pretty
:young:
and succesful :ohwow:
love her.
Ok.
b
Wtf
kjjjjjjjjjjjjjjssdddddddddddddddd
how many advances will it take
:stressed:
n
idk what happened in here but I'm sure Ray and the berts were involved
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 08:43:26 PM
kjjjjjjjjjjjjjjssdddddddddddddddd
how many advances will it take
:stressed:
:uhh:
Scurry your ass on to Glock lolz
jesus... My' wants no parts
Shshdhchcucchchcu
Quote from: Marilyn on October 10, 2016, 04:07:20 PM
Yep. That man has sustained success for over the span of three decades. And he is referenced by and influential to some of the newer generation's male artists.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 04:32:53 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 04:27:50 PM
!!! at Usher & Beyonce being counterparts at one point, even after Confessions, Beyonce just left sis in the dust :uhh:
They really were. Usher just didn't have what it took to translate that popularity into great artistry at some point. Say what u want about Beyonce, she knew she had to evolve and becoming a staple in SOMETHING. Ironically Michael was the blueprint to ushers career and BEYONCE became the Michael Jackson of her time :dead:
Stan for your Queen then
But Usher is iconic Hun
Quote from: Young on October 10, 2016, 09:01:29 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 04:32:53 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 04:27:50 PM
!!! at Usher & Beyonce being counterparts at one point, even after Confessions, Beyonce just left sis in the dust :uhh:
They really were. Usher just didn't have what it took to translate that popularity into great artistry at some point. Say what u want about Beyonce, she knew she had to evolve and becoming a staple in SOMETHING. Ironically Michael was the blueprint to ushers career and BEYONCE became the Michael Jackson of her time :dead:
Stan for your Queen then
But Usher is iconic Hun
He isn't, not even a lil bit.
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 06:56:50 PM
The way BET came through with receipts
http://www.bet.com/shows/bet-honors/2015/photos/honorees/my-way-10-artists-usher-has-influenced.html#!012015-shows-honors-performers-trey-songz-performs
Wow Ray is in here dragging lolz
ANY Male who sings R&B nowadays is gonna look at him as a reference point to longevity and things
He's definitely Iconic
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 10, 2016, 08:56:50 PM
jesus... My' wants no parts
v
we were together for 2 day fag
dont do me
:overit:
Wow, the consensus in here was NO
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:50:08 PM
How can u not know the if breakdown :dead:
U may not KNOW it but u should definitely know what he's talkn bout
yeah, that breakdown is legendary. :uhh:
No
Usher is like Ashanti, a good run while it lasted.
Damn not Ashanti :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:40:46 PM
I see him as the male version of Toni Braxton
Huge songs, huge albums, big sales, but lack the impact on wider pop culture
but they made a big mark in R&B
But even toni>>>>>>>
She has an ICONIC sound and style. She's had iconic moments. Before jlos dress, TONI was the one that had the showstopping dress. She's more of a legend imo tbh
Lol The reason why y'all think Toni and Faith Evan's are icons and Usher's not is because you happen to like Toni and Faith better. Y'all probably just like female artists more.
I love female artists, too. But, by now, anyone should respect Usher's contribution to the music industry.
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on October 10, 2016, 10:36:09 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:40:46 PM
I see him as the male version of Toni Braxton
Huge songs, huge albums, big sales, but lack the impact on wider pop culture
but they made a big mark in R&B
But even toni>>>>>>>
She has an ICONIC sound and style. She's had iconic moments. Before jlos dress, TONI was the one that had the showstopping dress. She's more of a legend imo tbh
Lol The reason why y'all think Toni and Faith Evan's are icons and Usher's not is because you happen to like Toni and Faith better. Y'all probably just like female artists more.
I love female artists, too. But, by now, anyone should respect Usher's contribution to the music industry.
yeah
Usher's contribution to mainstream success is definitely appreciated.
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on October 10, 2016, 10:36:09 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:40:46 PM
I see him as the male version of Toni Braxton
Huge songs, huge albums, big sales, but lack the impact on wider pop culture
but they made a big mark in R&B
But even toni>>>>>>>
She has an ICONIC sound and style. She's had iconic moments. Before jlos dress, TONI was the one that had the showstopping dress. She's more of a legend imo tbh
Lol The reason why y'all think Toni and Faith Evan's are icons and Usher's not is because you happen to like Toni and Faith better. Y'all probably just like female artists more.
I love female artists, too. But, by now, anyone should respect Usher's contribution to the music industry.
Look u don't know me and don't know who and why i consider someone an icon. Usher being a male has fck all to do with him not being an icon. Faith aint no icon to me either btw. Ur allowed to have your opinion but don't try to diminish mine, especially with some pathetic ass excuse like "because he's male" :dead:
g
Quote from: pettypatty on October 10, 2016, 10:45:34 PM
Usher's contribution to mainstream success is definitely appreciated.
Right, he just aint no damn icon. :dead:
Well, somebody in here said Faith is more of an icon. I was shocked. :-o
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on October 10, 2016, 10:36:09 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:40:46 PM
I see him as the male version of Toni Braxton
Huge songs, huge albums, big sales, but lack the impact on wider pop culture
but they made a big mark in R&B
But even toni>>>>>>>
She has an ICONIC sound and style. She's had iconic moments. Before jlos dress, TONI was the one that had the showstopping dress. She's more of a legend imo tbh
Lol The reason why y'all think Toni and Faith Evan's are icons and Usher's not is because you happen to like Toni and Faith better. Y'all probably just like female artists more.
I love female artists, too. But, by now, anyone should respect Usher's contribution to the music industry.
exactly
thats what I meant by how they "Oh Brit! Bey! Madonna!"
they will not recognize men on here
uh oh
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on October 10, 2016, 10:48:26 PM
Well, somebody in here said Faith is more of an icon. I was shocked. :-o
snmskajskdkksksk
They also think Ginuwine is one too apparently.
But usher isn't? CH.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/hannahgiorgis/how-do-i-say-is-still-the-goat?utm_term=.ijzWNevlA#.bj0vQ8xap
Let?s Talk About The Album That Actually Made Usher An Icon
USHER THROUGH THE YEARS: SEE THE R&B ICON'S STYLE EVOLUTION
http://www.fuse.tv/galleries/2012/07/awesome-usher-photos
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Well i do think faith is more important to R&B music than usher, but i dont think she's an icon. Usher's music is SHIT. U being shocked that it isn't held high in regard is beyond me. Usher doesn't have a catalog of classics. He has hits that were cool atm, so someone saying faith definitely wouldn't "shock" me. That's like someone being shocked that MC Hammer isn't revered in Rap :dead:
U Make Me Wanna
Nice & Slow
Burn
Lovers & Friends
U Remind Me
U Got It Bad
not classics?
Id say the first 2 maybe. A song being a hit doesn't equal classic. Lovers and friends shouldn't even be up there :dead:
I did like that tho. I actually forgot about burn until i just saw it there :plzstop:
Usher just isn't an icon to me and his music leaves much to be desired. If he has ANY classic records, id say they come from his 2nd album.
you are a hater
who said just because they were hits?
They still get play till this day, when he performs them the crowds know all the words
they've been sampled, what else do you want?
DJ Khaled has a single right now that interpolates Lovers & Friends its not a classic?
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Who said faith is an icon
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
Usher is an R&B legend with more classics than any other artist his age. His catalog (minus the last 2 albums) is pretty much flawless. The Confessions album went Diamond and he was pretty much the biggest artist in the game at one point. Back in the 90's, everyone wanted to "dance like Usher" or had Usher posters on their walls. He was able to adapt at the start of the 2000's pioneering the futuristic Neptunes sound to R&B and later adapting and pioneering to the crunk sound with Lil Jon. Being adaptable is the key to longevity. His music is his impact. Like many artists who have huge blockbuster albums, though, it became his downfall. It took Polow leaking "Love In This Club" for him to even release another single. The impact of his previous album helped that song fly to #1 within weeks. But he steered away from his heartthrob image, got married, acted crazy on TRL defending Tameka, sued his biggest fansite for hating on his wife, and the Here I Stand album was a little too mature for his core audience. By 30, he was cooling off.
But is he iconic in the way Britney or Beyonce are?
No. And that's simply because outside of the music, there isn't really anything interesting about Usher. No iconic outfits, no real iconic routines (even though he is a phonemonal dancer) like "Remember The Time", "Thriller", "Vogue", "Rhythm Nation", "Single Ladies", "I'm A Slave 4 U"...... No snake, no metal glove or alter ego, no bodysuit with the ass out....
There's no frenzy. There's no real hype. He can probably walk down the street without causing too much of a commotion. And now he's sitting on The Voice alongside Shakira (who's being paid more). When Mariah did American Idol, she was paid the most. When Britney did X-Factor, she was paid the most. And sadly, that just makes him seem desperate and washed up. Not to mention, he's on Snapchat desperately taking nude pictures. Didn't he just star in a movie? If he were truly ICONIC, everything he does would in someway become an extension of his iconography. He's just regular as hell now.
Usher is an R&B legend. But he is not ICONIC.
Well damn....
Yea, the songs aint classics and he ain't an icon.........or anything even close tbh :dead:
I do think he's an R&B veteran tho
Quote from: FINE. on October 10, 2016, 11:04:11 PM
n
Who said faith is an icon
Iono, i didn't see that either :dead:
so Usher is an Icon
but LaVonc & BSource refuse to admit it
I think that sums up the thread
Quote from: pettypatty on October 10, 2016, 04:22:21 PM
I can't think of one artist or hear a song and think damn "that's so Usher" :dead:
im crying
not 25 pages
Quote from: pettypatty on October 10, 2016, 04:22:21 PM
I can't think of one artist or hear a song and think damn "that's so Usher" :dead:
!!! he doesn't have a sound or vibe, IMO
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 10, 2016, 05:19:15 PM
then why can't i think of one memorable usher performance
:plzstop:
charisma! showstopper!
plea'
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
Usher is an R&B legend with more classics than any other artist his age. His catalog (minus the last 2 albums) is pretty much flawless. The Confessions album went Diamond and he was pretty much the biggest artist in the game at one point. Back in the 90's, everyone wanted to "dance like Usher" or had Usher posters on their walls. He was able to adapt at the start of the 2000's pioneering the futuristic Neptunes sound to R&B and later adapting and pioneering to the crunk sound with Lil Jon. Being adaptable is the key to longevity. His music is his impact. Like many artists who have huge blockbuster albums, though, it became his downfall. It took Polow leaking "Love In This Club" for him to even release another single. The impact of his previous album helped that song fly to #1 within weeks. But he steered away from his heartthrob image, got married, acted crazy on TRL defending Tameka, sued his biggest fansite for hating on his wife, and the Here I Stand album was a little too mature for his core audience. By 30, he was cooling off.
But is he iconic in the way Britney or Beyonce are?
No. And that's simply because outside of the music, there isn't really anything interesting about Usher. No iconic outfits, no real iconic routines (even though he is a phonemonal dancer) like "Remember The Time", "Thriller", "Vogue", "Rhythm Nation", "Single Ladies", "I'm A Slave 4 U"...... No snake, no metal glove or alter ego, no bodysuit with the ass out....
There's no frenzy. There's no real hype. He can probably walk down the street without causing too much of a commotion. And now he's sitting on The Voice alongside Shakira (who's being paid more). When Mariah did American Idol, she was paid the most. When Britney did X-Factor, she was paid the most. And sadly, that just makes him seem desperate and washed up. Not to mention, he's on Snapchat desperately taking nude pictures. Didn't he just star in a movie? If he were truly ICONIC, everything he does would in someway become an extension of his iconography. He's just regular as hell now.
Usher is an R&B legend. But he is not ICONIC.
This 'Behind the Music' bio fjjj gorl....
but yea! he's not an icon or legend lolz :hehe:
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:32:38 PM
dfgf not it being because we're gay
no luv, it's because he's BORING
nnnn
to be fair, you guys are not here for male artists :dead: but then again, I don't know a straight nigga who cares for R&B artists to the point of defending them lolz
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:28:20 PM
Blonde was talking about popular moments, dances, or fashion statements that made the aforementioned artists iconic.
It had nothing to do with them being "cunt" :dead:
Usher doesnt have any of those which he mentioned, no real pop culture impact
yes he does
him & chilli's whole relationship was a huge pop culture moment
and the whole "do the A-Town STOMP!" part of Yeah was a dance craze
and most men wear pretty much standard clothes
but the fitted cap, Blazer & Jeans look was definitely a fashion trend for men
ya'll just dot recognize because he's not a female swinging around a wig
I just sharted everywhere
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 07:42:21 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: FAM? on October 10, 2016, 07:35:16 PM
This nigga said the A-Towm Stomp snsnksMAMSMSMSMSM
ray bye!
I mean everytime "Yeah! plays ya'll can act dumb
but everyone kinda gets right in step
abbbbbb
I have honestly NEVER seen anyone do that dance :plzstop:
dfffffffffffff
NEVER fj :kii: and why is he speaking in past tense :uhh:
no one even listens to "Yeah" in 2016
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 10, 2016, 07:46:22 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 07:44:58 PM
Every time Jan's "If" comes on people wait for the break down and try that dance.
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JDKSFKDSFHKLDSJFHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
he really tried to SQUEEZE that in
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Quote from: FAM? on October 10, 2016, 07:54:26 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:52:40 PM
And the cis should ESPECIALLY know it, wasnt that what ciara's uncoordinated ass attempted while FLAILING across that damn BET stage :dead:
Please, that's definitely an iconic dance
No one below 30 is familiar with "If"...
Right :dead:
If! huge song and dance! gor....
Rhythm Nation is her only identifiable choreography
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:55:20 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:28:20 PM
Blonde was talking about popular moments, dances, or fashion statements that made the aforementioned artists iconic.
It had nothing to do with them being "cunt" :dead:
Usher doesnt have any of those which he mentioned, no real pop culture impact
yes he does
him & chilli's whole relationship was a huge pop culture moment
and the whole "do the A-Town STOMP!" part of Yeah was a dance craze
and most men wear pretty much standard clothes
but the fitted cap, Blazer & Jeans look was definitely a fashion trend for men
ya'll just dot recognize because he's not a female swinging around a wig
Nigga, please. You're playing, right?
That "blazer/hat" look you're referring to is thanks to Russell Simmon and Phat Farm's 2003 line an ENTIRE YEAR before Usher started purchasing the clothes and dressing that way. Usher did not start anything.
(http://i.imgur.com/caXjrAQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/hkn31dg.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/bOdYjzZ.jpg)
He was a FAN like everyone else!
(http://i.imgur.com/sd5alMx.jpg)
And you can't possibly think that's the same as these???
(http://i.imgur.com/HkbW1Kq.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/FTsprH2.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/LWmSIym.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1er4VAe.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/okNYGeA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qxzpAqE.jpg)
STOP!
And boy, show me the impact of the GOD DAMN A-Town stomp? Where???? The "A-Town Stomp" was shit they were already doing in the club in Atlanta. He didn't create anything. He was just naming popular Atlanta dances at the end of "Yeah!". Your examples are AWFUL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBSrXta7XSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgguEZCE3Dk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnk7lh9M3o
I'll wait for you to show me 300 niggas in blazers and fitteds & a Phat Farm Jean doing the A-Town Stomp.
:kii:
n
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on October 10, 2016, 10:48:26 PM
Well, somebody in here said Faith is more of an icon. I was shocked. :-o
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In R&B, she def. is more iconic. Neither of are icons in general tho.
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 10:57:05 PM
U Make Me Wanna
Nice & Slow
Burn
Lovers & Friends
U Remind Me
U Got It Bad
not classics?
v
The first two only, luv
Quote from: BLOND?. on October 10, 2016, 07:55:20 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:28:20 PM
Blonde was talking about popular moments, dances, or fashion statements that made the aforementioned artists iconic.
It had nothing to do with them being "cunt" :dead:
Usher doesnt have any of those which he mentioned, no real pop culture impact
yes he does
him & chilli's whole relationship was a huge pop culture moment
and the whole "do the A-Town STOMP!" part of Yeah was a dance craze
and most men wear pretty much standard clothes
but the fitted cap, Blazer & Jeans look was definitely a fashion trend for men
ya'll just dot recognize because he's not a female swinging around a wig
Nigga, please. You're playing, right?
That "blazer/hat" look you're referring to is thanks to Russell Simmon and Phat Farm's 2003 line an ENTIRE YEAR before Usher started purchasing the clothes and dressing that way. Usher did not start anything.
(http://i.imgur.com/caXjrAQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/hkn31dg.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/bOdYjzZ.jpg)
He was a FAN like everyone else!
(http://i.imgur.com/sd5alMx.jpg)
And you can't possibly think that's the same as these???
(http://i.imgur.com/HkbW1Kq.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/FTsprH2.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/LWmSIym.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1er4VAe.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/okNYGeA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qxzpAqE.jpg)
STOP!
And boy, show me the impact of the GOD DAMN A-Town stomp? Where???? The "A-Town Stomp" was shit they were already doing in the club in Atlanta. He didn't create anything. He was just naming popular Atlanta dances at the end of "Yeah!". Your examples are AWFUL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBSrXta7XSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgguEZCE3Dk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnk7lh9M3o
I'll wait for you to show me 300 niggas in blazers and fitteds & a Phat Farm Jean doing the A-Town Stomp.
:kii:
jnjnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnbh
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 07:15:33 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:12:26 PM
defef who wasn't singing about sex in the 90's
:uhh:
Brandy
Monica
Tevin Campbell
NSynce, BSB, Britney
Immature, you know the YOUNG artist
Yes Tevin Campbell was
And he was like 16 or 17 when the "I'm Ready" album came out.
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 10:49:21 PM
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on October 10, 2016, 10:36:09 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:40:46 PM
I see him as the male version of Toni Braxton
Huge songs, huge albums, big sales, but lack the impact on wider pop culture
but they made a big mark in R&B
But even toni>>>>>>>
She has an ICONIC sound and style. She's had iconic moments. Before jlos dress, TONI was the one that had the showstopping dress. She's more of a legend imo tbh
Lol The reason why y'all think Toni and Faith Evan's are icons and Usher's not is because you happen to like Toni and Faith better. Y'all probably just like female artists more.
I love female artists, too. But, by now, anyone should respect Usher's contribution to the music industry.
exactly
thats what I meant by how they "Oh Brit! Bey! Madonna!"
they will not recognize men on here
We recognizem MJ, Prince and R.Kelly on here ALL the time, those 3 have made lasting impacts on pop culture which makes them icons
Usher hasnt
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 05:53:35 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 10:49:21 PM
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on October 10, 2016, 10:36:09 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 10, 2016, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 10, 2016, 07:40:46 PM
I see him as the male version of Toni Braxton
Huge songs, huge albums, big sales, but lack the impact on wider pop culture
but they made a big mark in R&B
But even toni>>>>>>>
She has an ICONIC sound and style. She's had iconic moments. Before jlos dress, TONI was the one that had the showstopping dress. She's more of a legend imo tbh
Lol The reason why y'all think Toni and Faith Evan's are icons and Usher's not is because you happen to like Toni and Faith better. Y'all probably just like female artists more.
I love female artists, too. But, by now, anyone should respect Usher's contribution to the music industry.
exactly
thats what I meant by how they "Oh Brit! Bey! Madonna!"
they will not recognize men on here
We recognizem MJ, Prince and R.Kelly on here ALL the time, those 3 have made lasting impacts on pop culture which makes them icons
Usher hasnt
yall run to those generic ass names and that just pushes my point further. There are younger men than them who have made impacts on pop culture and yes Usher is one of them. The only reason y'all are downplaying his is because you can't relate.
Cant relate how?
because we're gay?
last time i checked the names I mentioned were all men...
and those are just run of the mill examples
like if anyone wanted to name a rapper they run to Biggie or Pac
just shows y'all don't really pay male artist any attention like that
Michael and Prince are undeniable, but they are not the only men that young men are influenced by in the industry in 2016
some people on the net use the word 'icon' or 'iconic' too easily.
Icon means something huge, someone that left an impact worldwide and for music history. There's only a few that are real icons, and mostly are from the 80s/90s:
Michael Jackson, Madonna, Prince, Whitney.....
And if we talk from different eras: Aretha, Nina Simone...
Usher? hell fucking No, lol. I mean...... lets be serious here guys. None from my family know who is Usher, that should tell u if he's an icon or not. An icon doesnt mean being an icon in just 1 country or 2, it has to be a worldwide impact and in the long run, not just having some hits here and there. Hits there are thousands, that doesnt make you an Icon
i dunno ray
your favs are brandy, beyonce and gospel singers like the rest of us
dont think were too diffeent
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2016, 07:00:10 AM
and those are just run of the mill examples
Because they are the only male artists to have a huge impact on music :uhh: :dead:
Most young male artists today would name R.Kelly as a musical influence before Usher lmao
and what other male artists from this generation do we need to pay attention to
name 3 others that have made an impact as big or as near as big as the 3 I mentioned
we damn near discuss everyone on here...
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 11, 2016, 07:02:39 AM
i dunno ray
your favs are brandy, beyonce and gospel singers like the rest of us
dont think were too diffeent
!!!!!!
unless there's a secret group of artists from this generation we dont know about...
I mean someone mentioned Kanye as someone from this generation who's Iconic and you laughed at that, but say the A Town stomp is an iconic dance, so..
Quote from: pettypatty on October 10, 2016, 03:20:10 PM
I think every male R&B artist aspires to have the success Usher has had. But Musically, no one looks to him for inspiration.
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 11, 2016, 07:02:39 AM
i dunno ray
your favs are brandy, beyonce and gospel singers like the rest of us
dont think were too diffeent
we're not TOO different
but we are because I also have just as much respect for Tank, Usher
John Legend, Jagged Edge etc
most of y'all would call them "late"
well yh lol
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 07:07:29 AM
I mean someone mentioned Kanye as someone from this generation who's Iconic and you laughed at that, but say the A Town stomp is an iconic dance, so..
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 07:05:06 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2016, 07:00:10 AM
and those are just run of the mill examples
Because they are the only male artists to have a huge impact on music :uhh: :dead:
Most young male artists today would name R.Kelly as a musical influence before Usher lmao
and what other male artists from this generation do we need to pay attention to
name 3 others that have made an impact as big or as near as big as the 3 I mentioned
we damn near discuss everyone on here...
they are not the ONLY ones
of course they have the biggest impact
Madonna has a bigger impact than Britney, but Britney still made an impact
Usher made an impact as well. Chris, Trey, NE-YO, Jason Derulo, Miguel, August etc have all also named Usher as an influence, and their videos and performances look way more like Usher's than Mike, Prince or Roberts
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 07:07:29 AM
I mean someone mentioned Kanye as someone from this generation who's Iconic and you laughed at that, but say the A Town stomp is an iconic dance, so..
Kanye actually is a pop culture icon, but I laughed because he's not bigger than Usher, and he is a rapper it's a dumb comparison
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2016, 07:48:38 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 07:05:06 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2016, 07:00:10 AM
and those are just run of the mill examples
Because they are the only male artists to have a huge impact on music :uhh: :dead:
Most young male artists today would name R.Kelly as a musical influence before Usher lmao
and what other male artists from this generation do we need to pay attention to
name 3 others that have made an impact as big or as near as big as the 3 I mentioned
we damn near discuss everyone on here...
Chris, Trey, NE-YO, Jason Derulo, Miguel, August etc
are these people iconic
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2016, 07:50:10 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 07:07:29 AM
I mean someone mentioned Kanye as someone from this generation who's Iconic and you laughed at that, but say the A Town stomp is an iconic dance, so..
Kanye actually is a pop culture icon, but I laughed because he's not bigger than Usher, and he is a rapper it's a dumb comparison
No someone just said Kanye was another male icon from this generation
no one compared him to usher lmao
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 07:50:22 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2016, 07:48:38 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 07:05:06 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2016, 07:00:10 AM
and those are just run of the mill examples
Because they are the only male artists to have a huge impact on music :uhh: :dead:
Most young male artists today would name R.Kelly as a musical influence before Usher lmao
and what other male artists from this generation do we need to pay attention to
name 3 others that have made an impact as big or as near as big as the 3 I mentioned
we damn near discuss everyone on here...
Chris, Trey, NE-YO, Jason Derulo, Miguel, August etc
are these people iconic
they are influenced by Usher, do you have to influence OTHER icons to be an icon? Because if so there's no icons mentioned in here
You said.... MJ, Prince & R.kelly were generic examples of artists who were iconic and made an impact
key word "iconic"
I said.... name others
you named chris, neyo, august alsina, trey,
chris, neyo, miguel, frank, august, trey ect are not iconic.
Quote from: Scott LeBeau on October 11, 2016, 07:01:03 AM
some people on the net use the word 'icon' or 'iconic' too easily.
Icon means something huge, someone that left an impact worldwide and for music history. There's only a few that are real icons, and mostly are from the 80s/90s:
Michael Jackson, Madonna, Prince, Whitney.....
And if we talk from different eras: Aretha, Nina Simone...
Usher? hell fucking No, lol. I mean...... lets be serious here guys. None from my family know who is Usher, that should tell u if he's an icon or not. An icon doesnt mean being an icon in just 1 country or 2, it has to be a worldwide impact and in the long run, not just having some hits here and there. Hits there are thousands, that doesnt make you an Icon
What would be your analysis towards R. Kelly
:wellheythere:
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 10, 2016, 04:47:18 PM
I always thought Usher was nothing more than a sexed up MJ clone, but he did make a mark during his prime. The problem is his entire career post "Confessions" has been him jumping on one trend after the other and doing whatever he can to stay relevant.
Wouldn't be surprised if he did a reality show anytime soon tbh.
Blond? lashed Ray tbh
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 07:56:04 AM
You said.... MJ, Prince & R.kelly were generic examples of artists who were iconic and made an impact
key word "iconic"
I said.... name others
you named chris, neyo, august alsina, trey,
chris, neyo, miguel, frank, august, trey ect are not iconic.
those names were not examples of icons
I skipped that question of 3 other men but now
Marvin Gaye, Boyz II Men, New Edition
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2016, 10:05:54 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 07:56:04 AM
You said.... MJ, Prince & R.kelly were generic examples of artists who were iconic and made an impact
key word "iconic"
I said.... name others
you named chris, neyo, august alsina, trey,
chris, neyo, miguel, frank, august, trey ect are not iconic.
those names were not examples of icons
I skipped that question of 3 other men but now
Marvin Gaye, Boyz II Men, New Edition
:udontlookok:
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Usher was stomped tf out in here :dead:
Of course Usher is an icon.
Bsource homegirls lie, numbers and accolades don't.
Not many male r & b singers seen the Accomplishments he had seen
U guys seem to be confused about what makes someone an icon, numbers aint that.
Why's this still goin on
The answer is NO!
f
26 years on bsource and there still isn't a real definition of an icon/legend, Shit!
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 12:27:30 PM
U guys seem to be confused about what makes someone an icon, numbers aint that.
Not just numbers.
Usher is one of the best male
Dancers, he had longevity and classic songs. He's the reason why crunk music popped off.
Usher is the billboard artist of the decade and he's not iconic?
Bsource homegirls lie.
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We already said he's synonymous with the 2000s and he was once beyonce's counterpart. No one is taking anything from him, just not giving him any undue props. He ain't an icon. :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 12:41:20 PM
We already said he's synonymous with the 2000s and he was once beyonce's counterpart. No one is taking anything from him, just not giving him any undue props. He ain't an icon. :dead:
He is an icon.
He was one of the biggest male teen singers of the 90's. He has classics and started a musical
Movement. He will always be brought up in conversations about male r
& b singers.
What makes someone iconic then?
Nah LOLZ
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 12:52:17 PM
What makes someone iconic then?
What's iconic about usher? Singers have iconic voices, he don't have that. Dancers have iconic dances or ATLEAST performances. Usher doesn't have a OMG performance that people revere. Mike had the moonwalk. Hell, even ciara has the damn matrix. There is no iconic look that's associated with him. Madonna had the cone titties. Janet has the rhythm nation look. Usher literally has NOTHING associated with him. Having a diamond album simply aint enough. Hammer has a diamond album. Vanilla ice sold like 8 million copies of an album. Sales don't make someone iconic. Icon aint equal to someone who was successful at one point
What happened in hea? :omgwatshappening:
Quote from: BOOCHIE MANE on October 11, 2016, 12:58:12 PM
What happened in hea? :omgwatshappening:
everybody fumed at Usher
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Not Ray day one and genesis day two
This thread will never close if they take shifts
I hope it doesn't
until you niggers get it in your heads that KING Usher is an Icon
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME on October 11, 2016, 01:17:13 PM
Not Ray day one and genesis day two
This thread will never close if they take shifts
Who's Ray?
Me
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Me
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Me
Good warm up guys
Why is this 30 pages? Is there mess in here? Thought we determined he wasn't an icon on page 5
We determined Faith overdosed on coke
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Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 12:56:52 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 12:52:17 PM
What makes someone iconic then?
What's iconic about usher? Singers have iconic voices, he don't have that. Dancers have iconic dances or ATLEAST performances. Usher doesn't have a OMG performance that people revere. Mike had the moonwalk. Hell, even ciara has the damn matrix. There is no iconic look that's associated with him. Madonna had the cone titties. Janet has the rhythm nation look. Usher literally has NOTHING associated with him. Having a diamond album simply aint enough. Hammer has a diamond album. Vanilla ice sold like 8 million copies of an album. Sales don't make someone iconic. Icon aint equal to someone who was successful at one point
Funny cause i remember you guys SWORE mya was the best thing on stage Next to Bey and when I said she wasn't iconic excuses came pouring in :plzstop:
But Usher has iconic songs and he was part of an iconic movement in music. Yeah,
You make me wanna, and burn are all iconic songs that are still referenced today.
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No one on here said anything about mya being iconic or defended that argument . We said she's a more skilled dancer than ciara and that's STILL true :dead:
Maybe if u hadnt ran out when we asked for those freestyle receipts, ud know that
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Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 01:44:38 PM
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No one on here said anything about mya being iconic or defended that argument . We said she's a more skilled dancer than ciara and that's STILL true :dead:
Maybe if u hadnt ran out when we asked for those freestyle receipts, ud know that
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Yh where did that even come from and whatbdiesnit have to do with Usher not being an icon and not having any memorable performances, or shock moments
Or having a signature sound or iconic memorable choreography
Usher ain't a fucking ICON.. bitch
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The way the board is planking on usher's platypus ass beak :plzstop:
Oh God, don't get that person started on freestyle battles again
Z
So him having several iconic songs doesn't make him iconic?
I see another 30 pages brewing :dead:
Quote from: Real on October 11, 2016, 02:05:07 PM
Oh God, don't get that person started on freestyle battles again
Shut up hoe.
You don't like it log out.
guys
this is about usher ok
Quote from: FAM? on October 11, 2016, 02:05:42 PM
Z
So him having several iconic songs doesn't make him iconic?
what usher songs are iconic
Quote from: BOOCHIE MANE on October 11, 2016, 02:00:38 PM
Usher ain't a fucking ICON.. bitch
He is, more than Monica too
I don't see Usher as an icon. He's successful and a veteran, but not an icon.
There is literally nothing iconic about him.
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 02:08:05 PM
Quote from: FAM? on October 11, 2016, 02:05:42 PM
Z
So him having several iconic songs doesn't make him iconic?
what usher songs are iconic
My Way.
You Make Wanna...
U Got It Bad
You Remind Me
Nice & Slow
Confessions
My Boo
Burn
I mean, just to name a few..say what you want but he has classics.
Quote from: FAM? on October 11, 2016, 02:13:21 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 02:08:05 PM
Quote from: FAM? on October 11, 2016, 02:05:42 PM
Z
So him having several iconic songs doesn't make him iconic?
what usher songs are iconic
My Way.
You Make Wanna...
U Got It Bad
You Remind Me
Nice & Slow
Confessions
My Boo
Burn
I mean, just to name a few..say what you want but he has classics.
i mean their all hits but
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 02:13:34 PM
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 11, 2016, 02:13:04 PM
Quote from: BOOCHIE MANE on October 11, 2016, 02:12:39 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:08:34 PM
Quote from: BOOCHIE MANE on October 11, 2016, 02:00:38 PM
Usher ain't a fucking ICON.. bitch
He is, more than Monica too
who isnt FAGGOT
what the HELL
he didn't LIE
Janet ain't CUTE
NFGCNVNVNMBN,BBMNNM N N
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 02:14:04 PM
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Quote from: FAM? on October 11, 2016, 02:05:42 PM
Z
So him having several iconic songs doesn't make him iconic?
what usher songs are iconic
My Way.
You Make Wanna...
U Got It Bad
You Remind Me
Nice & Slow
Confessions
My Boo
Burn
I mean, just to name a few..say what you want but he has classics.
i mean their all hits but
They are CLASSICS in black American culture. He's an icon, luv. Of our generation for sure.
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Not my boo :plzstop:
Y'all just NAMING usher songs at this point
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 02:17:19 PM
Not my boo :plzstop:
Y'all just NAMING usher songs at this point
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
throwback. CAUGHT UP!
:dead: :dead: :dead:
Hit songs =/= iconic
Most people here aren't even into male r & b like that. If y'all not talking about Brandy, y'all talking about Bey or Ciara, or Jazmine Sullivan or Tamar Braxton :plzstop:
And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
Would you ask a pizza restaraunt who makes the best burgers? Nope.
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Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:08:34 PM
Quote from: BOOCHIE MANE on October 11, 2016, 02:00:38 PM
Usher ain't a fucking ICON.. bitch
He is, more than Monica too
who isnt FAGGOT
what the HELL
he didn't LIE
Janet ain't CUTE
she used to BE
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
Most people here aren't even into male r & b like that. If y'all not talking about Brandy, y'all talking about Bey or Ciara, or Jazmine Sullivan or Tamar Braxton :plzstop:
And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
Would you ask a pizza restaraunt who makes the best burgers? Nope.
usher still ain't iconic
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 02:20:39 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
Most people here aren't even into male r & b like that. If y'all not talking about Brandy, y'all talking about Bey or Ciara, or Jazmine Sullivan or Tamar Braxton :plzstop:
And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
Would you ask a pizza restaraunt who makes the best burgers? Nope.
usher still ain't iconic
!!!!!! :plzstop:
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
This makes 0 sense
Quote from: Real on October 11, 2016, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
This makes 0 sense
None
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 02:21:35 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 02:20:39 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
Most people here aren't even into male r & b like that. If y'all not talking about Brandy, y'all talking about Bey or Ciara, or Jazmine Sullivan or Tamar Braxton :plzstop:
And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
Would you ask a pizza restaraunt who makes the best burgers? Nope.
usher still ain't iconic
!!!!!! :plzstop:
Brandy! Tamar!
Biiiitch
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 02:17:19 PM
Not my boo :plzstop:
Y'all just NAMING usher songs at this point
:plzstop:
Weak ass song
Its seldom that Gen can piece together a logically statement
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 02:20:39 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
Most people here aren't even into male r & b like that. If y'all not talking about Brandy, y'all talking about Bey or Ciara, or Jazmine Sullivan or Tamar Braxton :plzstop:
And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
Would you ask a pizza restaraunt who makes the best burgers? Nope.
usher still ain't iconic
Billboard>>bsource
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 02:20:39 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
Most people here aren't even into male r & b like that. If y'all not talking about Brandy, y'all talking about Bey or Ciara, or Jazmine Sullivan or Tamar Braxton :plzstop:
And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
Would you ask a pizza restaraunt who makes the best burgers? Nope.
usher still ain't iconic
Billboard>>bsource
Billboard only records stats and numbers
Which we acknowledged Usher has...and the only thing he has
Quote from: Riggy Rig on October 11, 2016, 02:22:55 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 02:17:19 PM
Not my boo :plzstop:
Y'all just NAMING usher songs at this point
:plzstop:
Weak ass song
bvbmn
who even remembers this mess? :plzstop:
Quote from: Real on October 11, 2016, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
This makes 0 sense
Right. Because all r kelly stans (and chris stans) love usher here.
Makes no sense at all.
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:28:05 PM
Quote from: Real on October 11, 2016, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
This makes 0 sense
Right. Because all r kelly stans (and chris stans) love usher here.
Makes no sense at all.
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People here don't MIND Usher
He just isn't interesting enough to bother with
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Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
This makes 0 sense
None
As if R kelly stans don't have usher in his sig laughing at him lol
Don't lie for ya homegirls
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 02:28:48 PM
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Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
This makes 0 sense
Right. Because all r kelly stans (and chris stans) love usher here.
Makes no sense at all.
bbbjjghjiikkkkkkk
People here don't MIND Usher
He just isn't interesting enough to bother with
Right. Most of the Usher lashings are just to fuck with Ray. I don't think anyone here REALLY cares about him that much
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:29:15 PM
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Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
This makes 0 sense
None
As if R kelly stans don't have usher in his sig laughing at him lol
Don't lie for ya homegirls
gorl there 3 r.kelly stans, 1/2 chris brown stans and 1 Usher Stan (don't include young fairweather ass)
The whole board isn't against Usher
Quote from: Real on October 11, 2016, 02:30:22 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 02:28:48 PM
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Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
This makes 0 sense
Right. Because all r kelly stans (and chris stans) love usher here.
Makes no sense at all.
bbbjjghjiikkkkkkk
People here don't MIND Usher
He just isn't interesting enough to bother with
Right. Most of the Usher lashings are just to fuck with Ray. I don't think anyone here REALLY cares about him that much
So you just admitted it's bias against Usher on this forum but what I said makes no sense?
When it comes to Gen common sense just vanishes huh :kii:
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:33:09 PM
When it comes to Gen common sense just vanishes
:gotchafag:
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Quote from: Real on October 11, 2016, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
This makes 0 sense
Right. Because all r kelly stans (and chris stans) love usher here.
Makes no sense at all.
bbbjjghjiikkkkkkk
People here don't MIND Usher
He just isn't interesting enough to bother with
Right. Most of the Usher lashings are just to fuck with Ray. I don't think anyone here REALLY cares about him that much
When it comes to Gen common sense just vanishes
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You said it
Quote from: Real on October 11, 2016, 02:34:09 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:33:09 PM
When it comes to Gen common sense just vanishes
:gotchafag:
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And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
This makes 0 sense
None
As if R kelly stans don't have usher in his sig laughing at him lol
Don't lie for ya homegirls
gorl there 3 r.kelly stans, 1/2 chris brown stans and 1 Usher Stan (don't include young fairweather ass)
The whole board isn't against Usher
exactly. Every person who stans for male r & b heavy stans for usher's competition. Everyone else here not into it like that. So why would the opinions of a female r & b forum hold weight on what's impactful in MALE r & b? Makes no sense.
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 02:28:48 PM
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Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
This makes 0 sense
Right. Because all r kelly stans (and chris stans) love usher here.
Makes no sense at all.
bbbjjghjiikkkkkkk
People here don't MIND Usher
He just isn't interesting enough to bother with
This is exactly how i feel about usher. I hate chris brown and am not an R Kelly Stan. I can appreciate everyone for what they offer. I think ginuwine is a MEH singer but i definitely respect his earlier work and can give props when due. Aint nobody hating on usher just to hate, he's just WEAK :dead:
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And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
This makes 0 sense
None
As if R kelly stans don't have usher in his sig laughing at him lol
Don't lie for ya homegirls
gorl there 3 r.kelly stans, 1/2 chris brown stans and 1 Usher Stan (don't include young fairweather ass)
The whole board isn't against Usher
So why would the opinions of a female r & b forum hold weight on what's impactful in MALE r & b? Makes no sense.
no everyone doesn't Stan for ushers competition
And we all here Stan for a variety of R&B artist, NOT just females
There's a wide varied taste on here
The general consensus is that Usher isn't deemed iconic
It isn't a conspiracy hun'
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 02:30:53 PM
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Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
This makes 0 sense
None
As if R kelly stans don't have usher in his sig laughing at him lol
Don't lie for ya homegirls
gorl there 3 r.kelly stans, 1/2 chris brown stans and 1 Usher Stan (don't include young fairweather ass)
The whole board isn't against Usher
!!!!!!!!!
Gen aint got a LICK of fckn sense :kii:
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 02:22:39 PM
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Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
Most people here aren't even into male r & b like that. If y'all not talking about Brandy, y'all talking about Bey or Ciara, or Jazmine Sullivan or Tamar Braxton :plzstop:
And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
Would you ask a pizza restaraunt who makes the best burgers? Nope.
usher still ain't iconic
!!!!!! :plzstop:
Brandy! Tamar!
Biiiitch
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Im crying at Gen scrambling for a point in here :kii:
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And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
This makes 0 sense
None
As if R kelly stans don't have usher in his sig laughing at him lol
Don't lie for ya homegirls
gorl there 3 r.kelly stans, 1/2 chris brown stans and 1 Usher Stan (don't include young fairweather ass)
The whole board isn't against Usher
So why would the opinions of a female r & b forum hold weight on what's impactful in MALE r & b? Makes no sense.
no everyone doesn't Stan for ushers competition
And we all here Stan for a variety of R&B artist, NOT just females
There's a wide varied taste on here
The general consensus is that Usher isn't deemed iconic
It isn't a conspiracy hun'
Please!
I see 10+ pages about Tamar vs Monica, not the same like Bryson Tiller vs the Weeknd :kii:.
The only time male r & b related topics get this popular is when it's about clowining Usher lol
I didn't know 3 r.kelly stans and 1 chris brown Stan constituted to the whole board
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And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
This makes 0 sense
None
As if R kelly stans don't have usher in his sig laughing at him lol
Don't lie for ya homegirls
gorl there 3 r.kelly stans, 1/2 chris brown stans and 1 Usher Stan (don't include young fairweather ass)
The whole board isn't against Usher
So why would the opinions of a female r & b forum hold weight on what's impactful in MALE r & b? Makes no sense.
no everyone doesn't Stan for ushers competition
And we all here Stan for a variety of R&B artist, NOT just females
There's a wide varied taste on here
The general consensus is that Usher isn't deemed iconic
It isn't a conspiracy hun'
Please!
I see 10+ pages about Tamar vs Monica, not the same like Bryson Tiller vs the Weeknd :kii:.
The only time male r & b related topics get this popular is when it's about clowining Usher lol
gorl please
There was a 40 page debate on R.Kelly vs Babyfcce and a 20 page debate on a prince vs Michael
We just RECENTLY had a thread debating on male r&b vocals
And there's always a tank vs Usher vs r.kelly vs whoever else on here
the majority of people don't find him interesting enough to talk about
And who here is debating on Weekend and Byrson damn tiller?
I mean if you wanna spearhead that go right ahead :uhh: :dead:
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
Would you ask a pizza restaraunt who makes the best burgers? Nope.
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Why are they under the impression that male r&b isn't discussed on here lol
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 02:43:37 PM
I didn't know 3 r.kelly stans and 1 chris brown Stan constituted to the whole board
Their the minority of heavy male r & b stans here yes.
The rest of y'all ain't into it like that. Which is why most male r &
B threads flop unless it's about nudes or clowning Usher :kii:
Quote from: Real on October 11, 2016, 02:48:44 PM
Why are they under the impression that male r&b isn't discussed on here lol
she only pops in every 2 weeks when Ciara or Beyonce is being discussed
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And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
This makes 0 sense
None
As if R kelly stans don't have usher in his sig laughing at him lol
Don't lie for ya homegirls
gorl there 3 r.kelly stans, 1/2 chris brown stans and 1 Usher Stan (don't include young fairweather ass)
The whole board isn't against Usher
So why would the opinions of a female r & b forum hold weight on what's impactful in MALE r & b? Makes no sense.
no everyone doesn't Stan for ushers competition
And we all here Stan for a variety of R&B artist, NOT just females
There's a wide varied taste on here
The general consensus is that Usher isn't deemed iconic
It isn't a conspiracy hun'
Please!
I see 10+ pages about Tamar vs Monica, not the same like Bryson Tiller vs the Weeknd :kii:.
The only time male r & b related topics get this popular is when it's about clowining Usher lol
gorl please
There was a 40 page debate on R.Kelly vs Babyfcce and a 20 page debate on a prince vs Michael
We just RECENTLY had a thread debating on male r&b vocals
And there's always a tank vs Usher vs r.kelly vs whoever else on here
the majority of people don't find him interesting enough to talk about
And who here is debating on Weekend and Byrson damn tiller?
I mean if you wanna spearhead that go right ahead :uhh: :dead:
R kelly thread? Didn't we already establish that most male r &
B heads here stan for Robert? :kii:
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And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
This makes 0 sense
None
As if R kelly stans don't have usher in his sig laughing at him lol
Don't lie for ya homegirls
gorl there 3 r.kelly stans, 1/2 chris brown stans and 1 Usher Stan (don't include young fairweather ass)
The whole board isn't against Usher
So why would the opinions of a female r & b forum hold weight on what's impactful in MALE r & b? Makes no sense.
no everyone doesn't Stan for ushers competition
And we all here Stan for a variety of R&B artist, NOT just females
There's a wide varied taste on here
The general consensus is that Usher isn't deemed iconic
It isn't a conspiracy hun'
Please!
I see 10+ pages about Tamar vs Monica, not the same like Bryson Tiller vs the Weeknd :kii:.
The only time male r & b related topics get this popular is when it's about clowining Usher lol
gorl please
There was a 40 page debate on R.Kelly vs Babyfcce and a 20 page debate on a prince vs Michael
We just RECENTLY had a thread debating on male r&b vocals
And there's always a tank vs Usher vs r.kelly vs whoever else on here
the majority of people don't find him interesting enough to talk about
And who here is debating on Weekend and Byrson damn tiller?
I mean if you wanna spearhead that go right ahead :uhh: :dead:
R kelly thread? Didn't we already establish that most male r &
B heads here stan for Robert? :kii:
ray bye
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Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:37:52 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 11, 2016, 02:30:53 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:29:15 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 11, 2016, 02:22:04 PM
Quote from: Real on October 11, 2016, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
And if they are they like R kelly or Chris Brown, so they hate Usher by nature.
This makes 0 sense
None
As if R kelly stans don't have usher in his sig laughing at him lol
Don't lie for ya homegirls
gorl there 3 r.kelly stans, 1/2 chris brown stans and 1 Usher Stan (don't include young fairweather ass)
The whole board isn't against Usher
So why would the opinions of a female r & b forum hold weight on what's impactful in MALE r & b? Makes no sense.
no everyone doesn't Stan for ushers competition
And we all here Stan for a variety of R&B artist, NOT just females
There's a wide varied taste on here
The general consensus is that Usher isn't deemed iconic
It isn't a conspiracy hun'
Please!
I see 10+ pages about Tamar vs Monica, not the same like Bryson Tiller vs the Weeknd :kii:.
The only time male r & b related topics get this popular is when it's about clowining Usher lol
gorl please
There was a 40 page debate on R.Kelly vs Babyfcce and a 20 page debate on a prince vs Michael
We just RECENTLY had a thread debating on male r&b vocals
And there's always a tank vs Usher vs r.kelly vs whoever else on here
the majority of people don't find him interesting enough to talk about
And who here is debating on Weekend and Byrson damn tiller?
I mean if you wanna spearhead that go right ahead :uhh: :dead:
R kelly thread? Didn't we already establish that most male r &
B heads here stan for Robert? :kii:
ray bye
Who? I don't know those fucking people.
Who am I next week? :kii:
And didn't this thread JUST happen as well? Gen were u watching the ciara freestyle vids while we discussed?
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=23468.msg684073#msg684073
And the consensus was chris so what was that about chris brown again :dead:
Gen, don't want u to miss these
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=23468.msg684073#msg684073
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=23826.0
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 02:54:11 PM
And didn't this thread JUST happen as well? Gen were u watching the ciara freestyle vids while we discussed?
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=23468.msg684073#msg684073
A thread about chris, usher, or r kelly.
Which i already said is the majority of male r &
B stans here. It's alot more male r & b and the fact that you post threads of the typical three proves me right
Where's the 30+ discussion on Flops like tory lanez like y'all have on sevyn streeter?
:kii:
So it only counts if the threads are about flops? :diddraispoot:
And when the hell did tory lanes become the face of male r&b :dead: your logic is HORRIBLE gfffg
Quote from: Real on October 11, 2016, 03:04:01 PM
So it only counts if the threads are about flops? :diddraispoot:
And when the hell did tory lanes become the face of male r&b :dead: your logic is HORRIBLE gfffg
ndjdjsj Bryson Tiller
Dyke we just don't care!
Quote from: Real on October 11, 2016, 03:04:01 PM
So it only counts if the threads are about flops? :diddraispoot:
And when the hell did tory lanes become the face of male r&b :dead: your logic is HORRIBLE gfffg
Tamar braxton isn't the face of female r & b either, yet she gets talked about constantly.
:kii:
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 03:02:13 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 02:54:11 PM
And didn't this thread JUST happen as well? Gen were u watching the ciara freestyle vids while we discussed?
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=23468.msg684073#msg684073
A thread about chris, usher, or r kelly.
Which i already said is the majority of male r &
B stans here. It's alot more male r & b and the fact that you post threads of the typical three proves me right
Where's the 30+ discussion on Flops like tory lanez like y'all have on sevyn streeter?
:kii:
A min ago we didnt discuss, now u wanna dictate who we discuss :dead:
I mean we don't have 30 pg threads on Jill scott or brooke valentine either. Just stfu :kii:
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 03:06:37 PM
Quote from: Real on October 11, 2016, 03:04:01 PM
So it only counts if the threads are about flops? :diddraispoot:
And when the hell did tory lanes become the face of male r&b :dead: your logic is HORRIBLE gfffg
Tamar braxton isn't the face of female r & b either, yet she gets talked about constantly.
:kii:
*dragged
I'm sure this is Ray
This Usher and Beyonce stanning is :hmph:
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 03:06:37 PM
Quote from: Real on October 11, 2016, 03:04:01 PM
So it only counts if the threads are about flops? :diddraispoot:
And when the hell did tory lanes become the face of male r&b :dead: your logic is HORRIBLE gfffg
Tamar braxton isn't the face of female r & b either, yet she gets talked about constantly.
:kii:
Find me a 30 pg thread where we're discussing tamar's music. We talk about what's currently happening in the media and that can be a discussion on tamar or the fckn debates like just the other day. U scramble for a point and rarely ever find it :kii:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 03:07:26 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 03:02:13 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 02:54:11 PM
And didn't this thread JUST happen as well? Gen were u watching the ciara freestyle vids while we discussed?
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=23468.msg684073#msg684073
A thread about chris, usher, or r kelly.
Which i already said is the majority of male r &
B stans here. It's alot more male r & b and the fact that you post threads of the typical three proves me right
Where's the 30+ discussion on Flops like tory lanez like y'all have on sevyn streeter?
:kii:
A min ago we didnt discuss, now u wanna dictate who we discuss :dead:
I mean we don't have 30 pg threads on Jill scott or brooke valentine either. Just stfu :kii:
Dictate what? I said from jump besides rob, chris and ush y'all
Dont really be into male r & b and you posted a chris brown thread :kii:
That's your bad, not
Mine :kii:
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 03:10:17 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 03:07:26 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 03:02:13 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 02:54:11 PM
And didn't this thread JUST happen as well? Gen were u watching the ciara freestyle vids while we discussed?
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=23468.msg684073#msg684073
A thread about chris, usher, or r kelly.
Which i already said is the majority of male r &
B stans here. It's alot more male r & b and the fact that you post threads of the typical three proves me right
Where's the 30+ discussion on Flops like tory lanez like y'all have on sevyn streeter?
:kii:
A min ago we didnt discuss, now u wanna dictate who we discuss :dead:
I mean we don't have 30 pg threads on Jill scott or brooke valentine either. Just stfu :kii:
Dictate what? I said from jump besides rob, chris and ush y'all
Dont really be into male r & b and you posted a chris brown thread :kii:
That's your bad, not
Mine :kii:
So what about this 30 pg thread where we literally sat and talked about everyone from ginuwine, to joe, to jaheim, to john legend :kii:
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=23826.0
Wasn't there a 40 page thread debating and comparing who's the most relevant between Avant, Sisqo and fckn Carl Thomas.
:dead:
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 11, 2016, 03:24:06 PM
Wasn't there a 40 page comparing Avant, Sisqo and fckn Carl Thomas.
Dru hill but yea. Gen missed that one too :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 03:01:00 PM
Gen, don't want u to miss these
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=23468.msg684073#msg684073
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=23826.0
one thread!
And most of it was talking about Usher :kii:
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 03:26:15 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 03:01:00 PM
Gen, don't want u to miss these
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=23468.msg684073#msg684073
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=23826.0
one thread!
And most of it was talking about Usher :kii:
wasnt that you wanted :uhh:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 03:25:31 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 11, 2016, 03:24:06 PM
Wasn't there a 40 page comparing Avant, Sisqo and fckn Carl Thomas.
Dru hill but yea. Gen missed that one too :dead:
The NERVE of fckn Argan
Gen lacks sense, i swear :kii:
Most of the faggots on here don't even like R. Kelly :hmph:
The Berts constantly have to TUG
!!!
Vonc was just saying he couldn't sing the other day I believe
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 11, 2016, 04:33:31 PM
!!!
Vonc was just saying he couldn't sing the other day I believe
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
f
Don't make me drag LaCOON :hmph:
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 11, 2016, 04:33:31 PM
!!!
Vonc was just saying he couldn't sing the other day I believe
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
:mmyulost:
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 03:06:37 PM
Quote from: Real on October 11, 2016, 03:04:01 PM
So it only counts if the threads are about flops? :diddraispoot:
And when the hell did tory lanes become the face of male r&b :dead: your logic is HORRIBLE gfffg
Tamar braxton isn't the face of female r & b either, yet she gets talked about constantly.
:kii:
And exactly how many people here consider Tamar to be an icon?
Your logic is flawed hon.
seems as if gene' has you girls riled up again haha
Quote from: pettypatty on October 11, 2016, 04:32:51 PM
Most of the faggots on here don't even like R. Kelly :hmph:
The Berts constantly have to TUG
I was just saying the huge male r & b stans are between Chris, Robert, and Usher.
Even in that thread Voncie posted y'all got off topic and made it about Usher :dead:
No.
Why is this thread still carrying n
Gen is dragging everyone that's hating on King Usher still
and he is an Icon
there's receipts everywhere and not just numbers
but stay hating
O.
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 11, 2016, 04:42:27 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 03:06:37 PM
Quote from: Real on October 11, 2016, 03:04:01 PM
So it only counts if the threads are about flops? :diddraispoot:
And when the hell did tory lanes become the face of male r&b :dead: your logic is HORRIBLE gfffg
Tamar braxton isn't the face of female r & b either, yet she gets talked about constantly.
:kii:
And exactly how many people here consider Tamar to be an icon?
Your logic is flawed hon.
Who said Tamartian was an icon?
I said this forum is 90% female r & b stans. Blabbing about nobodies like Tamar and Monica is further proof
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 05:46:36 PM
Quote from: pettypatty on October 11, 2016, 04:32:51 PM
Most of the faggots on here don't even like R. Kelly :hmph:
The Berts constantly have to TUG
I was just saying the huge male r & b stans are between Chris, Robert, and Usher.
Even in that thread Voncie posted y'all got off topic and made it about Usher :dead:
Neither one of those threads was "made about usher" u clearly didn't read them. And why wouldn't he be discussed when he was literally in BOTH original posts. Ur a legit clown :dead:
I have NO problems with Usher, but do I see him as an R&B icon? No. When I think of R&B icon, I think of R. Kelly or Mary J. Blige.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 06:19:28 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 11, 2016, 05:46:36 PM
Quote from: pettypatty on October 11, 2016, 04:32:51 PM
Most of the faggots on here don't even like R. Kelly :hmph:
The Berts constantly have to TUG
I was just saying the huge male r & b stans are between Chris, Robert, and Usher.
Even in that thread Voncie posted y'all got off topic and made it about Usher :dead:
Neither one of those threads was "made about usher" u clearly didn't read them. And why wouldn't he be discussed when he was literally in BOTH original posts. Ur a legit clown :dead:
Out of 30 male singers listed, Usher was the main topic of both threads.. Why his non iconic ass stands out so much? :kii:
Confessions OBLITHERATING your fave's existence really got hoes mad, lol
God, "Here i stand" was an embarrassing follow up smh
Usher IS male r & b. :cheerup:
Billboard gave the King his crown.
Quote from: Real on October 11, 2016, 02:48:44 PM
Why are they under the impression that male r&b isn't discussed on here lol
vvvvvv
Yea this is a dumb debate
We've had a lot of memorable discussions and lashings LOL! about male artists. Usher is boring tho. The only time he's brought up is to either spite Ray or start mess with the Berts.
Quote from: Scott. on October 11, 2016, 07:00:11 PM
I have NO problems with Usher, but do I see him as an R&B icon? No. When I think of R&B icon, I think of R. Kelly or Mary J. Blige.
Quote from: Riggy Rig on October 11, 2016, 07:04:26 PM
God, "Here i stand" was an embarrassing follow up smh
Barely remember that album tbh.
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 11, 2016, 04:33:31 PM
!!!
Vonc was just saying he couldn't sing the other day I believe
Sssssssss
Oh no
Quote from: Young on October 11, 2016, 11:03:41 PM
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on October 11, 2016, 04:33:31 PM
!!!
Vonc was just saying he couldn't sing the other day I believe
Sssssssss
Oh no
n
Flush still ain't no icon hun lmfao :freewilly:
Why was this bumped again?
Y'all are not stopping this man from being the Icon that he is
no matter how much y'all deny his classic hits, and influence on this current generation of male performers
give it up
f
yea, he aint one
Ccddcccvvv
Glad he definitely is an Icon & things
:blessed:
No one is denying his classic hits. We just don't think he's an icon. I just think he's one of those artist that knew how to stay relevant and afloat
Quote from: Scott. on October 11, 2016, 11:20:02 PM
No one is denying his classic hits. We just don't think he's an icon. I just think he's one of those artist that knew how to stay relevant and afloat
!!!!!!!!
until he didnt that is :jackiessales:
I see more pages brewing :dead:
Quote from: Scott. on October 11, 2016, 11:20:02 PM
No one is denying his classic hits. We just don't think he's an icon. I just think he's one of those artist that knew how to stay relevant and afloat
boy stop trying to argue I'm not referring to you
LaCon, Iman, Jayden etc know who I'm talking about
so ur talking to specific people :uhh:
it thought u were talking to anyone who didnt think he was an icon (the entire thread) :dead:
nope its one thing to just disagree
and another to flat out LIE like you and a few others have been doing
like saying he doesnt have classics? Pretending like he was just popular "for a moment"
since when is 20+ yrs a moment?
Boy...
like when I saw this
I did not see Michael Jackson... I saw a teen version of Yeah
same leading lady & all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6QGe-pXgdI
I didn't say he didn't have classics :dead:
MOST of his songs are songs of the moment. Outside of nice and slow and u make me wanna, i don't consider any other usher song a classic. MAYBE u remind me is debatable, but dassit
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2016, 11:46:07 PM
like when I saw this
I did not see Michael Jackson... I saw a teen version of Yeah
same leading lady & all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6QGe-pXgdI
(https://media.giphy.com/media/zdq4DT1gHlxny/giphy.gif)
Chris MJ impersonating self :'(
Bae was so damn cute.
when I saw this
USHER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GITiIqvHmJE
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 11, 2016, 11:47:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2016, 11:46:07 PM
like when I saw this
I did not see Michael Jackson... I saw a teen version of Yeah
same leading lady & all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6QGe-pXgdI
(https://media.giphy.com/media/zdq4DT1gHlxny/giphy.gif)
I NEVER saw that :dead:
Cause honestly, i thought chris brown was a better singer than usher when he came out. He had potential. He's a better dancer too........or so i thought. Chris is SHIT now
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 11:46:32 PM
I didn't say he didn't have classics :dead:
MOST of his songs are songs of the moment. Outside of nice and slow and u make me wanna, i don't consider any other usher song a classic. MAYBE u remind me is debatable, but dassit
U Got It Bad isnt a classic? How sway? YEAH isnt a classic?
You are hating
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Yea, ive never seen usher in ANYONE and that's the God's honest truth :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 11:49:39 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 11, 2016, 11:47:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2016, 11:46:07 PM
like when I saw this
I did not see Michael Jackson... I saw a teen version of Yeah
same leading lady & all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6QGe-pXgdI
(https://media.giphy.com/media/zdq4DT1gHlxny/giphy.gif)
I NEVER saw that :dead:
Cause honestly, i thought chris brown was a better singer than usher when he came out. He had potential. He's a better dancer too........or so i thought. Chris is SHIT now
even if Chris was a better singing (and hell froze over)
doesnt mean he didnt look at Usher's video as an influence
Yeah is classically terrible. That's like the EPITOME of hot for the moment :dead:
Ion even remember how yeah sounded but wasnt it Crunk? No trend song is gonna have a shelf life outside of its initial release :dead:
like if this aint his lil spin-off of Burn
same bridge & everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ26gAc7BtU
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 11:52:32 PM
Yeah is classically terrible. That's like the EPITOME of hot for the moment :dead:
Ion even remember how yeah sounded but wasnt it Crunk? No trend song is gonna have a shelf life outside of its initial release :dead:
you shouldnt be having this discussion because you just keep judging the content
as if your word is the deciding factor :dead: :dead: :dead:
like the song or not U Got It Bad definitely not a moment thing
it still referenced and sampled/played till this day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MXOspWx7ic
:ack:
this was an 8701 rejected demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4BTLoHSGMk
U got it bad has a small reference of an R. Kelly written song :justabit:
Chris is so fucking attractive.
His dancing was/is >
He can do more than EVERYONE.
music is >
ack. :loose2when: im stanning out
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2016, 11:56:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4BTLoHSGMk
:flamebroiled: :flamebroiled:
Quote from: pettypatty on October 11, 2016, 11:58:05 PM
U got it bad has a small reference of an R. Kelly written song :justabit:
n
has a Prince reference too :ohwow:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mC2ixOAivA
Never in Usher's wildest dreams could he dance like this
:raycharles2urmess: dont mind my Christ stanning over here
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2016, 11:55:21 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 11:52:32 PM
Yeah is classically terrible. That's like the EPITOME of hot for the moment :dead:
Ion even remember how yeah sounded but wasnt it Crunk? No trend song is gonna have a shelf life outside of its initial release :dead:
you shouldnt be having this discussion because you just keep judging the content
as if your word is the deciding factor :dead: :dead: :dead:
what else should I be judging :uhh:
That's like TEXTBOOK song for the moment. Crunk is SUPER wack now. How can a song that's foundation is something that's a trend and only meant to be hot for the moment also be a classic. u dont make sense :dead:
Im not saying anything like its "the deciding factor". Im giving my opinion and u just dont agree with it. Im sorry :dead:
Speaking of Mario tho, this was my MESS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUiohXvs0J0
Cant believe this came out over 6 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RUSRxTpI80
f
:uhh:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 12:01:40 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2016, 11:55:21 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 11, 2016, 11:52:32 PM
Yeah is classically terrible. That's like the EPITOME of hot for the moment :dead:
Ion even remember how yeah sounded but wasnt it Crunk? No trend song is gonna have a shelf life outside of its initial release :dead:
you shouldnt be having this discussion because you just keep judging the content
as if your word is the deciding factor :dead: :dead: :dead:
what else should I be judging :uhh:
That's like TEXTBOOK song for the moment. Crunk is SUPER wack now. How can a song that's foundation is something that's a trend and only meant to be hot for the moment also be a classic. u dont make sense :dead:
Im not saying anything like its "the deciding factor". Im giving my opinion and u just dont agree with it. Im sorry :dead:
you should be judging how the MASSES are still receiving the song till this day, not whether you like it or not
trendy or not the song is a pop culture staple, when performs it EVERYONE sings all the words
and it even still gets radio play its #29 on R&B iTunes RIGHT NOW! 12 yrs later
and its just for a moment?
It shits on that horrible Mario song.
d
:udontlookok:
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 12, 2016, 12:06:18 AM
Cant believe this came out over 6 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RUSRxTpI80
Usher reference in K Mac's verse
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 12:04:16 AM
Speaking of Mario tho, this was my MESS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUiohXvs0J0
That video was horrible. His styling<<<<<
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 12:08:19 AM
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 12, 2016, 12:06:18 AM
Cant believe this came out over 6 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RUSRxTpI80
Usher reference in K Mac's verse
ok. There's a reference to Paula Patton too. :udontlookok:
Described by Fuse magazine as an "R&B icon", he was ranked at number 10 in their "100 Most Award-Winning Artists" list
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 12, 2016, 12:09:45 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 12:08:19 AM
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 12, 2016, 12:06:18 AM
Cant believe this came out over 6 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RUSRxTpI80
Usher reference in K Mac's verse
ok. There's a reference to Paula Patton too. :udontlookok:
book Ms Patton
hers was kinda recent though
not like his song from 97 :popeyes:
Billboard ranked "Yeah!" at number 14 in their ?Greatest of All Time Hot 100 Songs?,[199] while VH1 ranked it at number 15 in their ?Greatest Songs of the 2000s?.
NE-YO
They want this competition between us, but I don?t feel any competition towards Usher. I feel that without Usher, there would be no me, there would be no Chris Brown, there would be no Trey Songz. He paved the way for us, so for him to get that honour was kind of special for me. I feel that he actually deserved it.?
I'm not sure about that..... Usher has always been kind of blah to me.
In the February 2006 issue of Vibe, a young Breezy spoke on the Confessions creator saying, ?He was the one who the youngsters looked up to. I know that we, in the dancing and singing world, looked up to him.
:receipts:
Quote from: Jay. on October 12, 2016, 12:18:17 AM
I'm not sure about that..... Usher has always been kind of blah to me.
thats pretty much the consensus :dead:
Speaking with Vibe in the March 2005 issue, he stated, "Usher inspires me the most because that's the position I want to be in one day. When I see where he is, it just makes me work that much harder."
-Omarion
Chris has always been a drug addict. Even at a young age. I wouldn't put too much stock in his interviews but mess.
Jason Derulo
Jason Derulo has paid his respects on several occasions and especially nods to Usher's performance skills. ??Confessions, classic album and it was just start to finish awesome? My favorite performers were always people that put on a show.
:receipts:
Having also worked with Usher on record and on tour, Trigga told Rap-Up, "I first started collaborating work-wise on the 'I Invented Sex (Remix),' but we?ve known each other for a while and he?s always been someone I could come to for advice. Furthermore, he?s paved the way for guys like myself to even do what we do."
That?s my big brother. He let me be a part of his creative process? Everything that I ever imagined Usher was, he exceeded that in his level of vision, creativity and all of those things. And then he even took me on tour so I?m grateful to have a mentor just like that in my corner.?
-Miguel
On the heels of his third album Raydiation dropping that year as well, he told Vibe, "I feel like, vocally, I'm looking at Usher. And I really respect Usher. He's opened the door for R&B cats to come in and be hella successful.
." Drake told Vibe, ?There were a lot of R&B moments that meant a lot to me. Usher was a big influence in that regard. I remember ['Nice And Slow'] meant the world to me. I always liked that flow cadence. It stuck in my head for years, and I said to myself that it could be a song on it?s own. I got a chance to use it and the pattern was right. It really made sense as to what I was discussing in the verse ? I?m just paying homage to a great melody.?
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2016, 11:46:07 PM
like when I saw this
I did not see Michael Jackson... I saw a teen version of Yeah
same leading lady & all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6QGe-pXgdI
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And U Got It Bad is definitely an R&B classic.
Usher is widely regarded as a sex symbol from a young age, predominantly for his stage persona. Fusion states ?Usher?one of the greatest R&B sex symbols in the past 20 years, paving the way for Chris Brown, Trey Songz and Justin Bieber?used sex as a major part of his image?,[176] while VH1 considers him to be ?the sexiest male performer ever to walk a stage?.[177] People magazine named Usher the "Sexiest R&B Star" in 1998, quoting singer Monica who said on stage, the sexiness was manifest in "his movements, his gestures, the way he expresses his lyrics." Actress Adrienne Frantz who played with Usher in The Bold and the Beautiful also said "Usher definitely has a way with women. His smile is sweet and sexy at the same time", adding "he's a great kisser." [178] Usher made the cut for People magazine?s "Sexiest Men Alive" in 2004,[179] as he did 4 years later again in 2008.[180] In 2005, Madame Tussauds New York unveiled a wax figure of Usher during a competition to launch The Usher Interactive Experience.[181] Another wax figure was unveiled alongside other singers for the opening of a ?VIP room? in 2007.[182] Rihanna told MTV in 2006 "I was in love with Usher when he first came out. I was just like he's so fine![...]I thought he was the hottest thing. I think he was my first crush definitely."[183] After his marriage, the sexual nature of his music was expected to mature as The New Yorker writer Sasha Frere-Jones writes ?The challenge here is to convince us that he is a married and responsible man?grown and sexy, without sacrificing the louche, frictionless sense of play that made him famous.?[184] VH1 have listed Usher at number 9 of its 100 Sexiest Artists List.[185] According to Glamour magazine, Usher was one of the ?50 Sexiest Men of 2010?.[186] In 2012, Billboard reviewed his fashion evolution stating ?The singer came onto the scene in the '90s rocking baggy jeans and suits that made us question his celebrity status, but over the years this R&B star has developed his own signature look, rendering him a modern day fashion icon?.[187] In 2013, Complex magazine placed Usher in its ?Most Stylish R&B Singers of the 90?s" list.[188] InStyle magazine rate him both for sex appeal and style as he was included their ?Hottest Celebrity Abs? collection [189] before coming under ?37 of the Most Stylish Dads?.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 12:19:21 AM
Quote from: Jay. on October 12, 2016, 12:18:17 AM
I'm not sure about that..... Usher has always been kind of blah to me.
thats pretty much the consensus :dead:
glad that I wasn't the only one who felt that way about him.
:usuresis:
can you handle the receipts Baph?
So basically most R&B guys just looked up to Usher for his success
:udontlookok:
Let me just toss this into a coffin and nail it shut. Usher isn't anyone's icon. Simple as that.
Quote from: pettypatty on October 12, 2016, 12:32:31 AM
So basically most R&B guys just looked up to Usher for his success
:udontlookok:
Which is what u said on pg 3 or some mess. All this searching and posting and usher still ain't no icon. We said u make me wanna and nice and slow are classics. Take that and run with it :dead:
Quote from: Jay. on October 12, 2016, 12:35:07 AM
Let me just toss this into a coffin and nail it shut. Usher isn't anyone's icon. Simple as that.
Jay this is literally what the whole thread has been saying :kii:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q64wUslGOBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=redYnmcvy4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xGhK6qgPtM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09e3gW-iNNU
why is Chris all over these Usher samples & interpolations?
stan bro! :letsmessfag:
Quote from: pettypatty on October 12, 2016, 12:32:31 AM
So basically most R&B guys just looked up to Usher for his success
:udontlookok:
clearly those blurbs are saying his vocals & dancing as well
:uhh: :uhh: :uhh: :uhh:
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 12:36:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q64wUslGOBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=redYnmcvy4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xGhK6qgPtM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09e3gW-iNNU
why is Chris all over these Usher samples & interpolations?
stan bro! :letsmessfag:
That has nothing to do with the artist :shannonsmissing:
That's the producers doing.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 12:35:09 AM
Quote from: pettypatty on October 12, 2016, 12:32:31 AM
So basically most R&B guys just looked up to Usher for his success
:udontlookok:
Which is what u said on pg 3 or some mess. All this searching and posting and usher still ain't no icon. We said u make me wanna and nice and slow are classics. Take that and run with it :dead:
NO those arent the only classics
and what Ant said is NOT what those quotes are saying
and he IS an Icon
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 12:35:52 AM
Quote from: Jay. on October 12, 2016, 12:35:07 AM
Let me just toss this into a coffin and nail it shut. Usher isn't anyone's icon. Simple as that.
Jay this is literally what the whole thread has been saying :kii:
But Ray is posting all of this shit like we really care. :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Ray just stop.
Quote from: pettypatty on October 12, 2016, 12:39:13 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 12:36:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q64wUslGOBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=redYnmcvy4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xGhK6qgPtM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09e3gW-iNNU
why is Chris all over these Usher samples & interpolations?
stan bro! :letsmessfag:
That has nothing to do with the artist :shannonsmissing:
That's the producers doing.
Teyana is literally SINGING Throwback
producer WHERE? And either way it just shows that ppl are here for Usher's voice and music :letsmessfag:
Quote from: pettypatty on October 12, 2016, 12:39:13 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 12:36:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q64wUslGOBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=redYnmcvy4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xGhK6qgPtM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09e3gW-iNNU
why is Chris all over these Usher samples & interpolations?
stan bro! :letsmessfag:
That has nothing to do with the artist :shannonsmissing:
That's the producers doing.
:dead: Ray...
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 12:38:15 AM
Quote from: pettypatty on October 12, 2016, 12:32:31 AM
So basically most R&B guys just looked up to Usher for his success
:udontlookok:
clearly those blurbs are saying his vocals & dancing as well
:uhh: :uhh: :uhh: :uhh:
Ant?
Throwback was a sample in itself. smh
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 12:41:09 AM
Quote from: pettypatty on October 12, 2016, 12:39:13 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 12:36:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q64wUslGOBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=redYnmcvy4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xGhK6qgPtM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09e3gW-iNNU
why is Chris all over these Usher samples & interpolations?
stan bro! :letsmessfag:
That has nothing to do with the artist :shannonsmissing:
That's the producers doing.
Teyana is literally SINGING Throwback
producer WHERE? And either way it just shows that ppl are here for Usher's voice and music :letsmessfag:
Baph?
Throwback contains Dionne's voice
thats not what Teyana is singing though
shes going based on Usher's verses
Quote from: Jay. on October 12, 2016, 12:39:44 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 12:35:52 AM
Quote from: Jay. on October 12, 2016, 12:35:07 AM
Let me just toss this into a coffin and nail it shut. Usher isn't anyone's icon. Simple as that.
Jay this is literally what the whole thread has been saying :kii:
But Ray is posting all of this shit like we really care. :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Yea, poor thing :stressed:
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 12:44:21 AM
Throwback contains Dionne's voice
thats not what Teyana is singing though
shes going based on Usher's verses
So. :uhh: It's still a fucking sample. Usher isn't no one's icon. Just deal with it and move the fuck on.
but you're in here on pg 43 to not care?
frdrdrdddddddddd
Quote from: Jay. on October 12, 2016, 12:47:50 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 12:44:21 AM
Throwback contains Dionne's voice
thats not what Teyana is singing though
shes going based on Usher's verses
So. :uhh: It's still a fucking sample.
and the fuckin sample has nothing to do with Teyana singing the part Usher ORIGINALLY fuckin
sang and NOT the sample part
now shut the fuck up
and Usher IS an Icon
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 12:42:02 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 12:38:15 AM
Quote from: pettypatty on October 12, 2016, 12:32:31 AM
So basically most R&B guys just looked up to Usher for his success
:udontlookok:
clearly those blurbs are saying his vocals & dancing as well
:uhh: :uhh: :uhh: :uhh:
Ant?
Ant?
Usher is not a fucking icon. He's not doing anything groundbreaking.
He is an Icon
he's one of the most talented, successful & influential male artists of our time
Give it up ray
:19k:
Quote from: Jay. on October 12, 2016, 12:54:20 AM
Usher is not a fucking icon. He's not doing anything groundbreaking.
!!!!!!!!!!
Ray is PISSED :kii:
why did you get quiet when I pointed out that the guys clearly mentioned his vocals & dancing Ant
what happened?
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 12:59:16 AM
Quote from: Jay. on October 12, 2016, 12:54:20 AM
Usher is not a fucking icon. He's not doing anything groundbreaking.
!!!!!!!!!!
Ray is PISSED :kii:
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 12:57:19 AM
He is an Icon
he's one of the most talented, successful & influential male artists of our time
No he's not. :dead: Quit being delusional.
Quote from: Jay. on October 12, 2016, 01:09:25 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 12:57:19 AM
He is an Icon
he's one of the most talented, successful & influential male artists of our time
No he's not. :dead: Quit being delusional.
he clearly is
and the proof is all through here
:receipts:
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2016, 11:26:25 PM
Quote from: Scott. on October 11, 2016, 11:20:02 PM
No one is denying his classic hits. We just don't think he's an icon. I just think he's one of those artist that knew how to stay relevant and afloat
boy stop trying to argue I'm not referring to you
LaCon, Iman, Jayden etc know who I'm talking about
Why are you so aggressive? Ain't nobody trying to argue with your ass :uhh: Be more specific next time.
So it's been settled that Usher is an icon lol
b
Who said "Yeah" was a classic? bdbb
And Usher ain't no icon.
Of course he is
Legend, yes. Icon, no. But this live version of Bedtime is going off! Sing Face and Shanice :stressed:
Quote from: Young on October 12, 2016, 02:00:19 AM
So it's been settled that Usher is an icon lol
yea, everyone said no lol! I believe lolz
Quote from: S on October 12, 2016, 02:28:55 AM
Of course he is
sdddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
Welcome :plzstop:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 02:54:47 AM
Quote from: S on October 12, 2016, 02:28:55 AM
Of course he is
sdddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
Welcome :plzstop:
Not this thread making lurker usher stans create accounts from the mess :plzstop: :plzstop: :dead:
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 10, 2016, 02:41:57 PM
I don't. There's nothing really iconic about him to me.
Sure he had a nice run, but I don't really see anyone trying to emulate anything he does.
He hasn't really left a mark.
Ageeed hes a vet in the game and thats it
Other artists come have come out the gate shitting on his catalouge
Hes s voice with a body
Not even a signature look style or dance for him
Quote from: GMF on October 12, 2016, 04:27:36 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 02:54:47 AM
Quote from: S on October 12, 2016, 02:28:55 AM
Of course he is
sdddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
Welcome :plzstop:
Not this thread making lurker usher stans create accounts from the mess :plzstop: :plzstop: :dead:
f
Yea, i doubt this is a luker
Where his peers (Justin, Beyonce,) and in the 90's (Brandy, Aaliyah) switched it up with every album, they had a bigger new sound, new image, new choreography, new visuals,...Usher stayed stagnant and basic.
Usher hasn't done ANYTHING groundbreaking musically or visually in his career, his biggest sound was the crunk movement and that was out a whole 2 years before "Yeah" came out and died a year after, I mean if you call singing over a crunk beat instead of rapping over it innovative and the A Town stomp iconic.... I dunno what to tell ya :dead:
In 5 years from now we'll be talking about how artists contributed to the game, what risks they took, which albums were ahead of the curve, Usher wont be in that conversation
Usher would definitely be in the conversation of what artists brought to the game and ESPECIALLY what albums were ahead of the curve. No one mentioned in that paragraph has a bigger album than Confessions. That album basically put the B Cox sound on the map, and became the template which young male R&B artist used to base their own careers off of. Not only that but Usher brought Rico Love into the game first by signing him as a rapper then telling him to be a songwriter
He ended up writing for Bey, Kelly, BRANDY Diddy Dirty Money etc.
As the receipts in this thread show all the young male artists cite him as an influence due to his vocals, performance skills and dancing, and being one of the most successful R&B artists ever
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 06:19:59 AM
Where his peers (Justin, Beyonce,) and in the 90's (Brandy, Aaliyah) switched it up with every album, they had a bigger new sound, new image, new choreography, new visuals,...Usher stayed stagnant and basic.
Usher hasn't done ANYTHING groundbreaking musically or visually in his career, his biggest sound was the crunk movement and that was out a whole 2 years before "Yeah" came out and died a year after, I mean if you call singing over a crunk beat instead of rapping over it innovative and the A Town stomp iconic.... I dunno what to tell ya :dead:
In 5 years from now we'll be talking about how artists contributed to the game, what risks they took, which albums were ahead of the curve, Usher wont be in that conversation
Ray almost swayed me with all those articles, but this brought me back
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 07:05:31 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 06:19:59 AM
Where his peers (Justin, Beyonce,) and in the 90's (Brandy, Aaliyah) switched it up with every album, they had a bigger new sound, new image, new choreography, new visuals,...Usher stayed stagnant and basic.
Usher hasn't done ANYTHING groundbreaking musically or visually in his career, his biggest sound was the crunk movement and that was out a whole 2 years before "Yeah" came out and died a year after, I mean if you call singing over a crunk beat instead of rapping over it innovative and the A Town stomp iconic.... I dunno what to tell ya :dead:
In 5 years from now we'll be talking about how artists contributed to the game, what risks they took, which albums were ahead of the curve, Usher wont be in that conversation
Ray almost swayed me with all those articles, but this brought me back
I mean no one is saying he isn't successful of had one of the biggest albums of all time or he doesn't have classics
But there are artists who DON'T have a Diamond album and still made a bigger impact and influence :dead:
Sex symbol in the early 00's..yh but music Icon..no
All of that: being a sex symbol, having classics, being hugely successful, and a huge influence on the young male artists after him, and saying he's not an Icon is hating. The ONLY thing is that he never went completely left field musically but if it's not broke don't fix it. I think the word y'all are trying to say is INNOVATIVE, not Icon
"haters!
and it def broke because he went from 10 mill to 1 to barely gold
you dont need to go completely left field, but you do need to grow
Chris showed more musical growth than Usher has his entire career
Nah.
A beloved R&B hitmaker from back in the day, definitely
but I wouldn't say he's an Icon.
is brian mcknight an icon
Those articles don't mean shit (most likely old as dirt) :plzstop:
I've already said at one point every male R&B artist has looked up to Ush' while he was on top. They've all aspired to be in his shoes.
The thing is, if people are not still listing you as an influence even after you've passed your peak, that's says a lot.
No one in 2016 or recent years is still naming Usher as one of their main influences :dead:
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 07:30:31 AM
"haters!
and it def broke because he went from 10 mill to 1 to barely gold
By this logic Brandy went from 5 Mill on NSN to 1 Mill on FM to barely Gold on Afro
does that mean her music is bad too?
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 07:52:58 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 07:30:31 AM
"haters!
and it def broke because he went from 10 mill to 1 to barely gold
By this logic Brandy went from 5 Mill on NSN to 1 Mill on FM to barely Gold on Afro
does that mean her music is bad too?
What does Brandy have to do with this hun
:udontlookok:
Quote from: pettypatty on October 12, 2016, 07:45:29 AM
No one in 2016 or recent years is still naming Usher as one of their main influences :dead:
lies
Bruno, Leon Bridges, Drake etc are still naming Usher as an influence
Quote from: pettypatty on October 12, 2016, 07:54:01 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 07:52:58 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 07:30:31 AM
"haters!
and it def broke because he went from 10 mill to 1 to barely gold
By this logic Brandy went from 5 Mill on NSN to 1 Mill on FM to barely Gold on Afro
does that mean her music is bad too?
What does Brandy have to do with this hun
:udontlookok:
apparently a lot
Jayden brought up how she "switched it up" and Usher didn't
:ATLcameo:
but now he's using numbers to say what music was good so
:letsmessfag:
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 07:52:58 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 07:30:31 AM
"haters!
and it def broke because he went from 10 mill to 1 to barely gold
By this logic Brandy went from 5 Mill on NSN to 1 Mill on FM to barely Gold on Afro
does that mean her music is bad too?
huh?
by YOUR logic you said he didn't need to change his sound 'if it ant broke don't fix it'?
And it clearly did break from him going diamond to a struggle platinum
Brandy took a massive musical risk from NSN to FM
What musically risk did Usher take from Confessions to Here I Stand?
45 pages later and Usher is still being lynched :omgwatshappening:
I think he is, even though he's had a few career misses.
Quote from: pettypatty on October 12, 2016, 07:54:01 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 07:52:58 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 07:30:31 AM
"haters!
and it def broke because he went from 10 mill to 1 to barely gold
By this logic Brandy went from 5 Mill on NSN to 1 Mill on FM to barely Gold on Afro
does that mean her music is bad too?
What does Brandy have to do with this hun
:udontlookok:
!!!
Not sure why she keeps popping up in here
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 07:57:42 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 07:52:58 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 07:30:31 AM
"haters!
and it def broke because he went from 10 mill to 1 to barely gold
By this logic Brandy went from 5 Mill on NSN to 1 Mill on FM to barely Gold on Afro
does that mean her music is bad too?
huh?
by YOUR logic you said he didn't need to change his sound 'if it ant broke don't fix it'?
And it clearly did break from him going diamond to a struggle platinum
Brandy took a massive musical risk from NSN to FM
What musically risk did Usher take from Confessions to Here I Stand?
when I said if it wasn't broke don't fix it I was clearly talking about the time between My Way and Here I Stand
but YOU said it was broke because his sales declined
so by YOUR logic that means Full Moon was broke then too because her sales declined
and Full Moon was not a risk musically
she got older, got pregnant and started singing adult themes
her and Rodney had had already created a sound on NSN and they just continued to move forward on FM, it's the best album ever but it's not risky. Its R&B
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
and Full Moon was not a risk musically
she got older, got pregnant and started singing adult themes
her and Rodney had had already created a sound on NSN and they just continued to move forward on FM, it's the best album ever but it's not risky. Its R&B
eeeeeeeek
I really dont want to continue a convo about her in here
but FM is anything BUT a standard R&B album
its an evolution that set the standard for the sound
we hear in music today
:uhh:
Quote from: Uni on October 12, 2016, 08:28:51 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
and Full Moon was not a risk musically
she got older, got pregnant and started singing adult themes
her and Rodney had had already created a sound on NSN and they just continued to move forward on FM, it's the best album ever but it's not risky. Its R&B
eeeeeeeek
I really dont want to continue a convo about her in here
but FM is anything BUT a standard R&B album
its an evolution that set the standard for the sound
we hear in music today
:uhh:
i just
Yep
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
and Full Moon was not a risk musically
f
you just lost any leg you had to stand on
Why is Lady Gaga doing the Halftime Show and not Usher.
Has he ever done it?
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 07:57:42 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 07:52:58 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 07:30:31 AM
"haters!
and it def broke because he went from 10 mill to 1 to barely gold
By this logic Brandy went from 5 Mill on NSN to 1 Mill on FM to barely Gold on Afro
does that mean her music is bad too?
huh?
it clearly did break from him going diamond to a struggle platinum
Brandy took a massive musical risk from NSN to FM
What musically risk did Usher take from Confessions to Here I Stand?
This logic makes NO sense. You are literally saying Usher's nonchanging formula broke because his sales declined, but then referenced Brandy's growth, whose sales also plummeted. You're basically saying, without saying it, that both their methods broke because both their sales declined :uhh:
Quote from: Chokeme on October 12, 2016, 09:03:40 AM
Why is Lady Gaga doing the Halftime Show and not Usher.
Has he ever done it?
[/quote
He was a special guest for the black eyed peas
Y'all got Ray acting a fool in here though. Not making him diminish Bran.
Quote from: Uni on October 12, 2016, 08:28:51 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
and Full Moon was not a risk musically
she got older, got pregnant and started singing adult themes
her and Rodney had had already created a sound on NSN and they just continued to move forward on FM, it's the best album ever but it's not risky. Its R&B
eeeeeeeek
I really dont want to continue a convo about her in here
but FM is anything BUT a standard R&B album
its an evolution that set the standard for the sound
we hear in music today
:uhh:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Marilyn on October 12, 2016, 09:19:39 AM
Y'all got Ray acting a fool in here though. Not making him diminish Bran.
Yeah let's just let him have it because :damselindistress:
just lock it
47 pages :dead: :plzstop:
Quote from: Uni on October 12, 2016, 08:28:51 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
and Full Moon was not a risk musically
she got older, got pregnant and started singing adult themes
her and Rodney had had already created a sound on NSN and they just continued to move forward on FM, it's the best album ever but it's not risky. Its R&B
eeeeeeeek
I really dont want to continue a convo about her in here
but FM is anything BUT a standard R&B album
its an evolution that set the standard for the sound
we hear in music today
:uhh:
its not "standard" but it wasn't a risk
it was a natural progression from NSN, it wasn't left field for her
only thing that was VERY different was her voice getting lower
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Who else at that time of music was doing electronic R&B
Raymond please :dead:
Quote from: Marilyn on October 12, 2016, 09:16:15 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 07:57:42 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 07:52:58 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 07:30:31 AM
"haters!
and it def broke because he went from 10 mill to 1 to barely gold
By this logic Brandy went from 5 Mill on NSN to 1 Mill on FM to barely Gold on Afro
does that mean her music is bad too?
huh?
it clearly did break from him going diamond to a struggle platinum
Brandy took a massive musical risk from NSN to FM
What musically risk did Usher take from Confessions to Here I Stand?
This logic makes NO sense. You are literally saying Usher's nonchanging formula broke because his sales declined, but then referenced Brandy's growth, whose sales also plummeted. You're basically saying, without saying it, that both their methods broke because both their sales declined :uhh:
yes, well I'm saying that was Jayden's logic
in reality neither of them did anything wrong in my eyes
just showing him how dumb he sounded by saying Usher's sales decline directly correlated to bad music
(https://uploadir.com/u/760brhyt)
It's not necessarily about taking risks anyways, is your shit referenced or not. Bran'd first four albums are all monumental blue print works for the generations of musicians to come.
Flush ain't got records like that, except Krustfessions
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 10:22:36 AM
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Who else at that time of music was doing electronic R&B
Raymond please :dead:
Michael on Invincible
Aaliyah before she died, TLC on FanMail
Brandy on NSN with U Don't Know Me
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 10:25:25 AM
It's not necessarily about taking risks anyways, is your shit referenced or not. Bran'd first four albums are all monumental blue print works for the generations of musicians to come.
Flush ain't got records like that, except Krustfessions
8701 and My Way are just as monumental as Brandy's first 4 albums
Jesus
you said Usher's formula worked hence him not needing to switch it up for years, when clearly it didnt work because he went from 10 million one album to 1 million to gold, so OBVIOUSLY that formula your saying was fine wasn't good enough anymore :dead:
Brandy's album underperformed because of label issue's NOT because of the material, every singer from this generation often sites FM & Afro as one of their main influences
Who was citing Here I Stand & the other albums as their's
To say Full Moon was not a risk musically when no one else was giving those complex vocals over electronic beats at that time is foolish :dead:
and even IF others had touched on it prior to Full Moon no one took it to that level vocally like Brandy did
It was risky for HER, from traditional R&B to something edgier, sexier and non conformist
Usher has been releasing the same content every album :uhh:
frrrr I forgot how dense he can be, after that Aaliyah I should have learnt :dead:
nvm ray :jackiessales:
I was really hoping he just made a typo
but
:diddraispoot:
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 10:26:52 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 10:25:25 AM
It's not necessarily about taking risks anyways, is your shit referenced or not. Bran'd first four albums are all monumental blue print works for the generations of musicians to come.
Flush ain't got records like that, except Krustfessions
8701 and My Way are just as monumental as Brandy's first 4 albums
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 08:58:33 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
and Full Moon was not a risk musically
f
you just lost any leg you had to stand on
DSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDSDS
wtf is going on
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 10:25:25 AM
It's not necessarily about taking risks anyways, is your shit referenced or not. Bran'd first four albums are all monumental blue print works for the generations of musicians to come.
Flush ain't got records like that, except Krustfessions
MJ only has one album that's constantly referenced, and that's Thriller. Does that mean Brandy is more iconic than Mj? :dead:
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
and Full Moon was not a risk musically
she got older, got pregnant and started singing adult themes
her and Rodney had had already created a sound on NSN and they just continued to move forward on FM, it's the best album ever but it's not risky. Its R&B
Boy now u sound completely stupid. :dead:
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:45:36 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 10:25:25 AM
It's not necessarily about taking risks anyways, is your shit referenced or not. Bran'd first four albums are all monumental blue print works for the generations of musicians to come.
Flush ain't got records like that, except Krustfessions
MJ only has one album that's constantly referenced, and that's Thriller. Does that mean Brandy is more iconic than Mj? :dead:
People also reference Dangerous, Bad & Off The Wall, some albums are more referenced than others
Point is, they all have bodies of work that may not be as successful as Confessions but are more influential and innovative
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 10:22:36 AM
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Who else at that time of music was doing electronic R&B
Raymond please :dead:
Like NO SENSE! But yeah is a classic :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 10:55:08 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 10:22:36 AM
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Who else at that time of music was doing electronic R&B
Raymond please :dead:
Like NO SENSE! But yeah is a classic :dead:
ffrgtre and the A Town STOMP is iconic
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee k ray!
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:45:36 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 10:25:25 AM
It's not necessarily about taking risks anyways, is your shit referenced or not. Bran'd first four albums are all monumental blue print works for the generations of musicians to come.
Flush ain't got records like that, except Krustfessions
MJ only has one album that's constantly referenced, and that's Thriller. Does that mean Brandy is more iconic than Mj? :dead:
That is a flat out lie.
Thriller, Off The Wall, Bad and Dangerous are all insanely influential albums.
All praised for their extremely different yet brilliant and still distinctly MJ-ish style.
He embodied the 80's with two earth shattering albums, marked the ultimate peak of New Jack Swing and his disco mess on OTW is still played in the clubs
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 07:26:42 AM
All of that: being a sex symbol, having classics, being hugely successful, and a huge influence on the young male artists after him, and saying he's not an Icon is hating. The ONLY thing is that he never went completely left field musically but if it's not broke don't fix it. I think the word y'all are trying to say is INNOVATIVE, not Icon
Right, they don't even make sense. Frank Ocean is innovative I guess, but that nigga ain't a icon.
and that coco nut keeps saying Justin is innovative. Working with 1 producer singing over the same ass beat for three albums is innovative? :kii:.
FS/LS>>>>>every usher album from Confessions going
:blessed:
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:45:36 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 10:25:25 AM
It's not necessarily about taking risks anyways, is your shit referenced or not. Bran'd first four albums are all monumental blue print works for the generations of musicians to come.
Flush ain't got records like that, except Krustfessions
MJ only has one album that's constantly referenced, and that's Thriller. Does that mean Brandy is more iconic than Mj? :dead:
People also reference Dangerous, Bad & Off The Wall, some albums are more referenced than others
Point is, they all have bodies of work that may not be as successful as Confessions but are more influential and innovative
No they don't.
Bad was critically panned and off the wall did well but it's not nearly as praised as Thriller. Thriller is the only real Mj album that gets talked about.
MJ really cranked four all time classics back to back to back. Ugh he shits on Princess 753 albums having self
:stressed:
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:45:36 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 10:25:25 AM
It's not necessarily about taking risks anyways, is your shit referenced or not. Bran'd first four albums are all monumental blue print works for the generations of musicians to come.
Flush ain't got records like that, except Krustfessions
MJ only has one album that's constantly referenced, and that's Thriller. Does that mean Brandy is more iconic than Mj? :dead:
Is your shit referenced aint just about albums. Michael has fashion references, dances references, musical,shit even his fckn HAIR! Someone can dress like Michael Jackson and not say a fckn WORD and we would know exactly who their imitating. Can someone dress as usher and be silent and u just guess who that person is emulating? Usher doesn't have a signature ANYTHING how the fck is he an icon :plzstop:
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 10:58:01 AM
FS/LS>>>>>every usher album from Confessions going
:blessed:
True
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:58:28 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:45:36 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 10:25:25 AM
It's not necessarily about taking risks anyways, is your shit referenced or not. Bran'd first four albums are all monumental blue print works for the generations of musicians to come.
Flush ain't got records like that, except Krustfessions
MJ only has one album that's constantly referenced, and that's Thriller. Does that mean Brandy is more iconic than Mj? :dead:
People also reference Dangerous, Bad & Off The Wall, some albums are more referenced than others
Point is, they all have bodies of work that may not be as successful as Confessions but are more influential and innovative
No they don't.
Bad was critically panned and off the wall did well but it's not nearly as praised as Thriller. Thriller is the only real Mj album that gets talked about.
They ALL get talked about
FM was critically panned but for most part it's a fan favourite and higly respected and referenced by her peers and vets
No one is looking at MJ reviews and seeing what got 3/5 stars they just know MJ had 4 classic, innovative infulentiel groundbreaking albums which ALL still get talked about, played, referenced and are infulential
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 10:58:01 AM
FS/LS>>>>>every usher album from Confessions going
:blessed:
Isn't that his biggest album?
Confessions outdid that 10x over :kii:
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:58:28 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:45:36 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 10:25:25 AM
It's not necessarily about taking risks anyways, is your shit referenced or not. Bran'd first four albums are all monumental blue print works for the generations of musicians to come.
Flush ain't got records like that, except Krustfessions
MJ only has one album that's constantly referenced, and that's Thriller. Does that mean Brandy is more iconic than Mj? :dead:
People also reference Dangerous, Bad & Off The Wall, some albums are more referenced than others
Point is, they all have bodies of work that may not be as successful as Confessions but are more influential and innovative
No they don't.
Bad was critically panned and off the wall did well but it's not nearly as praised as Thriller. Thriller is the only real Mj album that gets talked about.
NOPE. lmao
Everyone constantly praises Off The Wall
and even his earlier works are highly influential
and are covered by other artists across genres and all over the world
...what drug are you on?
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 10:59:54 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:45:36 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 10:25:25 AM
It's not necessarily about taking risks anyways, is your shit referenced or not. Bran'd first four albums are all monumental blue print works for the generations of musicians to come.
Flush ain't got records like that, except Krustfessions
MJ only has one album that's constantly referenced, and that's Thriller. Does that mean Brandy is more iconic than Mj? :dead:
Is your shit referenced aint just about albums. Michael has fashion references, dances references, musical,shit even his fckn HAIR! Someone can dress like Michael Jackson and not say a fckn WORD and we would know exactly who their imitating. Can someone dress as usher and be silent and u just guess who that person is emulating? Usher doesn't have a signature ANYTHING how the fck is he an icon :plzstop:
ACK!
But I mean an a town baseball cap and oversized blazer and STOMP to ya!
Quote from: Uni on October 12, 2016, 11:01:57 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:58:28 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:45:36 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 10:25:25 AM
It's not necessarily about taking risks anyways, is your shit referenced or not. Bran'd first four albums are all monumental blue print works for the generations of musicians to come.
Flush ain't got records like that, except Krustfessions
MJ only has one album that's constantly referenced, and that's Thriller. Does that mean Brandy is more iconic than Mj? :dead:
People also reference Dangerous, Bad & Off The Wall, some albums are more referenced than others
Point is, they all have bodies of work that may not be as successful as Confessions but are more influential and innovative
No they don't.
Bad was critically panned and off the wall did well but it's not nearly as praised as Thriller. Thriller is the only real Mj album that gets talked about.
NOPE. lmao
Everyone constantly praises Off The Wall
and even his earlier works are highly influential
and are covered by other artists across genres and all over the world
...what drug are you on?
!!!!!! :uhh:
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:01:34 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:58:28 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:45:36 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 10:25:25 AM
It's not necessarily about taking risks anyways, is your shit referenced or not. Bran'd first four albums are all monumental blue print works for the generations of musicians to come.
Flush ain't got records like that, except Krustfessions
MJ only has one album that's constantly referenced, and that's Thriller. Does that mean Brandy is more iconic than Mj? :dead:
People also reference Dangerous, Bad & Off The Wall, some albums are more referenced than others
Point is, they all have bodies of work that may not be as successful as Confessions but are more influential and innovative
No they don't.
Bad was critically panned and off the wall did well but it's not nearly as praised as Thriller. Thriller is the only real Mj album that gets talked about.
They ALL get talked about
FM was critically panned but for most part it's a fan favourite and higly respected and referenced by her peers and vets
No one is looking at MJ reviews and seeing what got 3/5 stars they just know MJ had 4 classic, innovative infulentiel groundbreaking albums which ALL still get talked about, played, referenced and are infulential
Wrong coco
Even in the music reviews, they say NONE of his albums measure up to Thriller and all of his work was constantky compared to it
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:56:40 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 07:26:42 AM
All of that: being a sex symbol, having classics, being hugely successful, and a huge influence on the young male artists after him, and saying he's not an Icon is hating. The ONLY thing is that he never went completely left field musically but if it's not broke don't fix it. I think the word y'all are trying to say is INNOVATIVE, not Icon
Right, they don't even make sense. Frank Ocean is innovative I guess, but that nigga ain't a icon.
and that coco nut keeps saying Justin is innovative. Working with 1 producer singing over the same ass beat for three albums is innovative? :kii:.
Frank Ocean? He has two albums :dead:
I swear u were out to the bathroom when God was handing out sense. And it aint about what producer u worked with over and over its about the moves u made musically from project to project. Rodney did both NSN and FM, does that somehow diminish the impact? Because she didn't work with a new producer? Just be quiet already :kii:
Usher only followed trends at the time and got succesful off it :dead:
He didn't set any, I give him introducing B.Cox back into the music scene but that's it
You even have artists from THIS generation like Bryson tiller naming damn near everyone BUT Usher as a musical influence
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:04:38 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:01:34 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:58:28 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:45:36 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 10:25:25 AM
It's not necessarily about taking risks anyways, is your shit referenced or not. Bran'd first four albums are all monumental blue print works for the generations of musicians to come.
Flush ain't got records like that, except Krustfessions
MJ only has one album that's constantly referenced, and that's Thriller. Does that mean Brandy is more iconic than Mj? :dead:
People also reference Dangerous, Bad & Off The Wall, some albums are more referenced than others
Point is, they all have bodies of work that may not be as successful as Confessions but are more influential and innovative
No they don't.
Bad was critically panned and off the wall did well but it's not nearly as praised as Thriller. Thriller is the only real Mj album that gets talked about.
They ALL get talked about
FM was critically panned but for most part it's a fan favourite and higly respected and referenced by her peers and vets
No one is looking at MJ reviews and seeing what got 3/5 stars they just know MJ had 4 classic, innovative infulentiel groundbreaking albums which ALL still get talked about, played, referenced and are infulential
Wrong coco
Even in the music reviews, they say NONE of his albums measure up to Thriller and all of his work was constantky compared to it
No hun' your wrong.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 10:59:54 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:45:36 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 10:25:25 AM
It's not necessarily about taking risks anyways, is your shit referenced or not. Bran'd first four albums are all monumental blue print works for the generations of musicians to come.
Flush ain't got records like that, except Krustfessions
MJ only has one album that's constantly referenced, and that's Thriller. Does that mean Brandy is more iconic than Mj? :dead:
Is your shit referenced aint just about albums. Michael has fashion references, dances references, musical,shit even his fckn HAIR! Someone can dress like Michael Jackson and not say a fckn WORD and we would know exactly who their imitating. Can someone dress as usher and be silent and u just guess who that person is emulating? Usher doesn't have a signature ANYTHING how the fck is he an icon :plzstop:
This essay has WHAT to do with only Thriller being important out of Mj's catalogue? Wasted ya breath voncie
Now Thriller is the only recognised album in his discography ddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
first downplaying Full Moon and now Michael fucking Jackson :dead:
I'm convinced Gen' and Ray are the same person
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:06:54 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 10:59:54 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:45:36 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 10:25:25 AM
It's not necessarily about taking risks anyways, is your shit referenced or not. Bran'd first four albums are all monumental blue print works for the generations of musicians to come.
Flush ain't got records like that, except Krustfessions
MJ only has one album that's constantly referenced, and that's Thriller. Does that mean Brandy is more iconic than Mj? :dead:
Is your shit referenced aint just about albums. Michael has fashion references, dances references, musical,shit even his fckn HAIR! Someone can dress like Michael Jackson and not say a fckn WORD and we would know exactly who their imitating. Can someone dress as usher and be silent and u just guess who that person is emulating? Usher doesn't have a signature ANYTHING how the fck is he an icon :plzstop:
This essay has WHAT to do with only Thriller being important out of Mj's catalogue? Wasted ya breath voncie
If u really think Michael Jackson has one important album and that alone made him the KING of pop than ur as stupid as we all think u are :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 10:59:54 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:45:36 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 10:25:25 AM
It's not necessarily about taking risks anyways, is your shit referenced or not. Bran'd first four albums are all monumental blue print works for the generations of musicians to come.
Flush ain't got records like that, except Krustfessions
MJ only has one album that's constantly referenced, and that's Thriller. Does that mean Brandy is more iconic than Mj? :dead:
Is your shit referenced aint just about albums. Michael has fashion references, dances references, musical,shit even his fckn HAIR! Someone can dress like Michael Jackson and not say a fckn WORD and we would know exactly who their imitating. Can someone dress as usher and be silent and u just guess who that person is emulating? Usher doesn't have a signature ANYTHING how the fck is he an icon :plzstop:
Even LL Cool J had a look :plzstop: , which I imitate all the time
:plzstop:
Dangerous alone sold over 30 million albums WW and is one of the THE most important albums in the 90's for the New Jack Swing ALONE :dead:
Nvm the video's, performances, visual and the tour :kii:
Quote from: Scott. on October 12, 2016, 11:09:39 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 10:59:54 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:45:36 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 10:25:25 AM
It's not necessarily about taking risks anyways, is your shit referenced or not. Bran'd first four albums are all monumental blue print works for the generations of musicians to come.
Flush ain't got records like that, except Krustfessions
MJ only has one album that's constantly referenced, and that's Thriller. Does that mean Brandy is more iconic than Mj? :dead:
Is your shit referenced aint just about albums. Michael has fashion references, dances references, musical,shit even his fckn HAIR! Someone can dress like Michael Jackson and not say a fckn WORD and we would know exactly who their imitating. Can someone dress as usher and be silent and u just guess who that person is emulating? Usher doesn't have a signature ANYTHING how the fck is he an icon :plzstop:
Even LL Cool J had a look :plzstop: , which I imitate all the time
U know what id probably be able to recognize an LL imitation before usher. Shit even LL had the damn kangol hat
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 11:04:59 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 10:56:40 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 07:26:42 AM
All of that: being a sex symbol, having classics, being hugely successful, and a huge influence on the young male artists after him, and saying he's not an Icon is hating. The ONLY thing is that he never went completely left field musically but if it's not broke don't fix it. I think the word y'all are trying to say is INNOVATIVE, not Icon
Right, they don't even make sense. Frank Ocean is innovative I guess, but that nigga ain't a icon.
and that coco nut keeps saying Justin is innovative. Working with 1 producer singing over the same ass beat for three albums is innovative? :kii:.
Frank Ocean? He has two albums :dead:
I swear u were out to the bathroom when God was handing out sense.
:omgwatshappening:
Facts don't lie. Bsource homegirls do. Usher's dances are ICONIC and always imitated. That's why i said before, male r & b ain't you hoe's specialty to speak on.
http://teamcoco.com/video/usher-conan-dance
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-yEx4q9a2pk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-vFsoAFU_jM
http://trendy-dancing.wonderhowto.com/how-to/do-ushers-famous-hip-hop-slide-glide-dance-move-414888/
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:15:52 AM
Facts don't lie. Bsource homegirls do. Usher's dances are ICONIC and always imitated. That's why i said before, male r & b ain't you hoe's specialty to speak on.
(http://i66.tinypic.com/10fc7qq.gif)
N
I can find 40 video's of randoms doing the gangam style, laffy taffy, stanky leg and macarena
Heeeeeeeey Macarena! Aight!
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:17:27 AM
I can find 40 video's of randoms doing the gangam style, laffy taffy, stanky leg and macarena
Making excuses?
You hoes said Usher has no iconic moves or signature dances, we just DEBUNKED that ignorant theory.
Quote from: Uni on October 12, 2016, 11:16:46 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:15:52 AM
Facts don't lie. Bsource homegirls do. Usher's dances are ICONIC and always imitated. That's why i said before, male r & b ain't you hoe's specialty to speak on.
(http://i66.tinypic.com/10fc7qq.gif)
Pretty much! :dead:
Quote from: Scott. on October 12, 2016, 11:18:47 AM
Heeeeeeeey Macarena! Aight!
facts dont lie. Bsource homegirls do.
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:19:22 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:17:27 AM
I can find 40 video's of randoms doing the gangam style, laffy taffy, stanky leg and macarena
Making excuses?
You hoes said Usher has no iconic moves or signature dances, we just DEBUNKED that ignorant theory.
he doesn't :uhh:
The 360 spin and some fucking foot slides?
What year were you born?
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:15:52 AM
Facts don't lie. Bsource homegirls do. Usher's dances are ICONIC and always imitated. That's why i said before, male r & b ain't you hoe's specialty to speak on.
http://teamcoco.com/video/usher-conan-dance
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-yEx4q9a2pk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-vFsoAFU_jM
http://trendy-dancing.wonderhowto.com/how-to/do-ushers-famous-hip-hop-slide-glide-dance-move-414888/
I just literally looked at my screen in disbelief at this post
i cant breathe
did you just post any ol' video that popped up? :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Making excuses between board members and creating your own logic..
Usher is ICONIC and people imitating his moves everyday. He went DIAMOND, you hoes think none of that is remembered? Check the scoreboard for MALE R & B
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:08:17 AM
Now Thriller is the only recognised album in his discography
I'm starting to think that's Ray for real now
Not spinning around being a Signature usher move :plzstop:
And this side glide shit, wasnt that what ciara was doing in that one video? That michael jackson move pretty much?
Beyonce has the uh oh and single ladies dance
Michael had the moonwalk
Janet had RN
.........
you telling me after 20 years in the game Usher only managed to come up with a footslide and 360 spin?
dances people been doing since the damn 90's?
I mean at least Ciara had the fucking Matrix :plzstop:
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:20:42 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:19:22 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:17:27 AM
I can find 40 video's of randoms doing the gangam style, laffy taffy, stanky leg and macarena
Making excuses?
You hoes said Usher has no iconic moves or signature dances, we just DEBUNKED that ignorant theory.
he doesn't :uhh:
The 360 spin and some fucking foot slides?
What year were you born?
Dancers making dance videos dedicated to Usher's SIGNATURE moves>> a bsource homegirl who's only reciept is another bsource member :kii:
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:20:42 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:19:22 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:17:27 AM
I can find 40 video's of randoms doing the gangam style, laffy taffy, stanky leg and macarena
Making excuses?
You hoes said Usher has no iconic moves or signature dances, we just DEBUNKED that ignorant theory.
he doesn't :uhh:
The 360 spin and some fucking foot slides?
What year were you born?
Im CRYING! Usher invented spinning around in a circle? Wow :ohwow:
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:24:57 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:20:42 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:19:22 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:17:27 AM
I can find 40 video's of randoms doing the gangam style, laffy taffy, stanky leg and macarena
Making excuses?
You hoes said Usher has no iconic moves or signature dances, we just DEBUNKED that ignorant theory.
he doesn't :uhh:
The 360 spin and some fucking foot slides?
What year were you born?
Dancers making dance videos dedicated to Usher's SIGNATURE moves>> a bsource homegirl who's only reciept is another bsource member :kii:
gneorigreghEN\GRIEWROGFNewklrfg
you are OUT of it
Gen, log back into ur Ray account. You've exhausted ur logic under this username :plzstop:
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:24:57 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:20:42 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:19:22 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:17:27 AM
I can find 40 video's of randoms doing the gangam style, laffy taffy, stanky leg and macarena
Making excuses?
You hoes said Usher has no iconic moves or signature dances, we just DEBUNKED that ignorant theory.
he doesn't :uhh:
The 360 spin and some fucking foot slides?
What year were you born?
Usher's SIGNATURE move
is a recycled MJ move.
stop.
Quote from: Uni on October 12, 2016, 11:27:30 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:24:57 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:20:42 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:19:22 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:17:27 AM
I can find 40 video's of randoms doing the gangam style, laffy taffy, stanky leg and macarena
Making excuses?
You hoes said Usher has no iconic moves or signature dances, we just DEBUNKED that ignorant theory.
he doesn't :uhh:
The 360 spin and some fucking foot slides?
What year were you born?
Usher's SIGNATURE move
is a recycled MJ move.
stop.
!!!!!!!!! :kii:
Quote from: pettypatty on October 12, 2016, 07:45:29 AM
Those articles don't mean shit (most likely old as dirt) :plzstop:
I've already said at one point every male R&B artist has looked up to Ush' while he was on top. They've all aspired to be in his shoes.
The thing is, if people are not still listing you as an influence even after you've passed your peak, that's says a lot.
No one in 2016 or recent years is still naming Usher as one of their main influences :dead:
!!!
May your gonna GAG at the last 5 pages :plzstop:
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 08:58:33 AM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
and Full Moon was not a risk musically
f
you just lost any leg you had to stand on
I really can't believe he said that :plzstop: :uhh:
Sorry Coco, you gonna need more than Voncie co signs to prove something.
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:20:15 AM
Quote from: Scott. on October 12, 2016, 11:18:47 AM
Heeeeeeeey Macarena! Aight!
facts dont lie. Bsource homegirls do.
I'm trying to figure out why you're saying this to me.
I'm gonna need more than a youtube video to prove the slide and spin are iconic usher dances
The dance videos are titled usher though, not Mj.
So Usher is known for his iconic dance moves.
Facts dont lie, bsource homegirls do.
Go debate the actual DANCERS who made the videos lol.
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:34:01 AM
The dance videos are titled usher though, not Mj.
Everyone who is a dancer in the indusrty has span and slide before Usher
how is it iconic when it's been done 23467 times before by damn near everyone else
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:32:03 AM
I'm gonna need more than a youtube video to prove the slide and spin are iconic usher dances
He's got absolutely nothing. Let him argue with himself
He's embarrassing to watch.
this is comedy
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 12, 2016, 11:29:02 AM
Quote from: pettypatty on October 12, 2016, 07:45:29 AM
Those articles don't mean shit (most likely old as dirt) :plzstop:
I've already said at one point every male R&B artist has looked up to Ush' while he was on top. They've all aspired to be in his shoes.
The thing is, if people are not still listing you as an influence even after you've passed your peak, that's says a lot.
No one in 2016 or recent years is still naming Usher as one of their main influences :dead:
!!!
This shouldve been the thread closer here. Any praise usher got was because he was the top guy at one point. He isn't someone that anyone aspires to emulate at this point because his artistry lacked his whole career and once the hits and sales disappeared, there was nothing else noteworthy to recognize him for
What are bsource homegirls :dead:
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 11:37:32 AM
What are bsource homegirls :dead:
jbni
another one of rays late terms
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:34:01 AM
The dance videos are titled usher though, not Mj.
So Usher is known for his iconic dance moves.
Facts dont lie, bsource homegirls do.
Go debate the actual DANCERS who made the videos lol.
Those videos were shit. and just so we're clear, this "bsource homgirls" thing is extra corny :dead:
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 11:37:32 AM
What are bsource homegirls :dead:
People who post on bsource who uses co signs as reciepts instead
Of actual facts.
You also fit that category hoe
Quote from: Scott. on October 12, 2016, 11:18:47 AM
Heeeeeeeey Macarena! Aight!
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 11:39:56 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:34:01 AM
The dance videos are titled usher though, not Mj.
So Usher is known for his iconic dance moves.
Facts dont lie, bsource homegirls do.
Go debate the actual DANCERS who made the videos lol.
Those videos were shit. and just so we're clear, this "bsource homgirls" thing is extra corny :dead:
Dancer's opinion on dancing holds way more weight than a bsource homegirl, just so we clear. :kii:
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:42:25 AM
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 11:37:32 AM
What are bsource homegirls :dead:
People who post on bsource who uses co signs as reciepts instead
Of actual facts.
You also fit that category hoe
So youtube is some authority or something that can be used as a fact checker in ur opinion? U know ANYONE can make a youtube video, right? That's like saying we're wrong and posting wikipedia links. Ur a clown :dead:
I just don't have the energy.
But really, why are Ray and Gen never on at the same time :shannonsmissing:
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:29:28 AM
May your gonna GAG at the last 5 pages :plzstop:
I am literally sitting here like... :uhh:
I CANNOT with Ray & Gen right now.
This Usher lashing really has them reaching for any lifeline they can find.
And yea, someone who post a youtube video is surely an authority in the field of whatever they're posting about :plzstop:
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 11:45:40 AM
But really, why are Ray and Gen never on at the same time :shannonsmissing:
and use the same late terms
"bsource homegirls" sounds like something he'd say
Ever since that mane said Mary J. Blige was a nonfactor compared to Usher, I was just fucking done.
Anyone who credits usher with spinning and that MJ slide is automatically not worth listening to
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:24:00 AM
Beyonce has the uh oh and single ladies dance
Michael had the moonwalk
Janet had RN
.........
you telling me after 20 years in the game Usher only managed to come up with a footslide and 360 spin?
dances people been doing since the damn 90's?
I mean at least Ciara had the fucking Matrix :plzstop:
Didn't Paula Abdul spearhead the Tran dance moves tho
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 11:49:21 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:24:00 AM
Beyonce has the uh oh and single ladies dance
Michael had the moonwalk
Janet had RN
.........
you telling me after 20 years in the game Usher only managed to come up with a footslide and 360 spin?
dances people been doing since the damn 90's?
I mean at least Ciara had the fucking Matrix :plzstop:
Didn't Paula Abdul spearhead the Tran dance moves tho
no
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:51:23 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 11:38:13 AM
Quote from: Scott. on October 12, 2016, 11:31:47 AM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:20:15 AM
Quote from: Scott. on October 12, 2016, 11:18:47 AM
Heeeeeeeey Macarena! Aight!
facts dont lie. Bsource homegirls do.
I'm trying to figure out why you're saying this to me.
U BITCH :kii:
He's a homegirl, that's why. :kii:
That's stupid, that's WHY I asked.
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 11:49:21 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:24:00 AM
Beyonce has the uh oh and single ladies dance
Michael had the moonwalk
Janet had RN
.........
you telling me after 20 years in the game Usher only managed to come up with a footslide and 360 spin?
dances people been doing since the damn 90's?
I mean at least Ciara had the fucking Matrix :plzstop:
Didn't Paula Abdul spearhead the Tran dance moves tho
Iono and it really doesn't matter. Those moves are synonymous with JANET not paula. Im sure michael had choreographers too but HE made the moves famous, not them. Leave it to u.............
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 11:46:13 AM
And yea, someone who post a youtube video is surely an authority in the field of whatever they're posting about :plzstop:
It was DANCE TEACHERS posting those dance videos
What's your occupation? Bsource poster? :kii:
someone say Usher's not an Icon while doing the running man on youtube
and lay this fag to rest.
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:51:14 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 11:49:21 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:24:00 AM
Beyonce has the uh oh and single ladies dance
Michael had the moonwalk
Janet had RN
.........
you telling me after 20 years in the game Usher only managed to come up with a footslide and 360 spin?
dances people been doing since the damn 90's?
I mean at least Ciara had the fucking Matrix :plzstop:
Didn't Paula Abdul spearhead the Tran dance moves tho
no
nnnnnnnnbbbbbb he always gotta take it in another direction
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:53:37 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 11:46:13 AM
And yea, someone who post a youtube video is surely an authority in the field of whatever they're posting about :plzstop:
It was DANCE TEACHERS posting those dance videos
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: Uni on October 12, 2016, 11:53:51 AM
someone say Usher's not an Icon while doing the running man on youtube
and lay this fag to rest.
Yea apparently if we make a youtube video, it's official :kii:
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 11:45:40 AM
But really, why are Ray and Gen never on at the same time :shannonsmissing:
:omgwatshappening:
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 11:54:12 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:51:14 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 12, 2016, 11:49:21 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:24:00 AM
Beyonce has the uh oh and single ladies dance
Michael had the moonwalk
Janet had RN
.........
you telling me after 20 years in the game Usher only managed to come up with a footslide and 360 spin?
dances people been doing since the damn 90's?
I mean at least Ciara had the fucking Matrix :plzstop:
Didn't Paula Abdul spearhead the Tran dance moves tho
no
nnnnnnnnbbbbbb he always gotta take it in another direction
I just.
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lplayz98yx1r0irhwo1_250.gif)
Quote from: Uni on October 12, 2016, 11:53:51 AM
someone say Usher's not an Icon while doing the running man on youtube
and lay this fag to rest.
I dont sleep with Gay men, that's your job FAGGOT
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: Uni on October 12, 2016, 11:53:51 AM
someone say Usher's not an Icon while doing the running man on youtube
and lay this fag to rest.
I dont sleep with Gay men
(http://media.giphy.com/media/UbJNbhARTSngA/giphy.gif)
What did sleeping with men have to do with that post? :dead: Gen is kinda out there
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 11:54:41 AM
Quote from: Uni on October 12, 2016, 11:53:51 AM
someone say Usher's not an Icon while doing the running man on youtube
and lay this fag to rest.
Yea apparently if we make a youtube video, it's official :kii:
Your not a dancer, or dance TEACHER dumb idiot.
Too busy begging for co signs :kii:
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 11:58:46 AM
What did sleeping with men have to do with that post? :dead: Gen is kinda out there
He called me a gay man that sleeps with Other gay men, I don't do that.
That's what you do,
Faggot.
yh thats raymond :plzstop: :plzstop:
someome do an IP check
"Post a video"
Have you hoes and faggots even INSTRUCTED a dance class before? No.
So why would dance opinions from bsource homegirls make more sense than ACTUAL dancers?
You bitches don't count, FAGGOT
jbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 12:03:09 PM
yh thats raymond :plzstop: :plzstop:
someome do an IP check
I dont know those fucking people.
Who am i next week?
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 11:54:41 AM
Quote from: Uni on October 12, 2016, 11:53:51 AM
someone say Usher's not an Icon while doing the running man on youtube
and lay this fag to rest.
Yea apparently if we make a youtube video, it's official :kii:
Your not a dancer, or dance TEACHER dumb idiot.
Too busy begging for co signs :kii:
How do u know what i am? How do u know what they are? Because they said so? You're an idiot :kii:
He's losing it
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 12:04:51 PM
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 12:03:09 PM
yh thats raymond :plzstop: :plzstop:
someome do an IP check
I dont know those fucking people.
Who am i next week?
An idiot. That's the only constant :dead:
This thread is exhausting :melmel:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 12:05:27 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 11:54:41 AM
Quote from: Uni on October 12, 2016, 11:53:51 AM
someone say Usher's not an Icon while doing the running man on youtube
and lay this fag to rest.
Yea apparently if we make a youtube video, it's official :kii:
Your not a dancer, or dance TEACHER dumb idiot.
Too busy begging for co signs :kii:
How do u know what i am? How do u know what they are? Because they said so? You're an idiot :kii:
No way you have time to dance, rehearse, TEACH and train with all
The leisure time you spend on here :dead:
And if you are a dance teacher,
Prove it. Bsource cant cosign that :kii:
U remind me of a GUH that I once knew, see ha face whenever I, I look at you, wouldn't believe all of the things, she put me through. This is why I just can't get with you. :'(
Cosigns really get under Ra....Gen's skin :dead: ppl would agree with you too if ya weren't so damn dumb
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 12:12:43 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 12:05:27 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 11:54:41 AM
Quote from: Uni on October 12, 2016, 11:53:51 AM
someone say Usher's not an Icon while doing the running man on youtube
and lay this fag to rest.
Yea apparently if we make a youtube video, it's official :kii:
Your not a dancer, or dance TEACHER dumb idiot.
Too busy begging for co signs :kii:
How do u know what i am? How do u know what they are? Because they said so? You're an idiot :kii:
No way you have time to dance, rehearse, TEACH and train with all
The leisure time you spend on here :dead:
And if you are a dance teacher,
Prove it. Bsource cant cosign that :kii:
Prove that I'm not. Jesus be a morsel of fckn sense :dead:
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 12:15:02 PM
Cosigns really get under Ra....Gen's skin :dead: ppl would agree with you too if ya weren't so damn dumb
How does it get under my skin?
You the one who uses that as receipts :kii:. It's a Godsend to you hoes :kii:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 12:15:17 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 12:12:43 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 12:05:27 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 11:54:41 AM
Quote from: Uni on October 12, 2016, 11:53:51 AM
someone say Usher's not an Icon while doing the running man on youtube
and lay this fag to rest.
Yea apparently if we make a youtube video, it's official :kii:
Your not a dancer, or dance TEACHER dumb idiot.
Too busy begging for co signs :kii:
How do u know what i am? How do u know what they are? Because they said so? You're an idiot :kii:
No way you have time to dance, rehearse, TEACH and train with all
The leisure time you spend on here :dead:
And if you are a dance teacher,
Prove it. Bsource cant cosign that :kii:
Prove that I'm not. Jesus be a morsel of fckn sense :dead:
Cause ya ain't one. Ain't no active dance teacher has time to do the fuck
Shit you do
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 12:15:02 PM
Cosigns really get under Ra....Gen's skin :dead: ppl would agree with you too if ya weren't so damn dumb
bhhh
Ray uses the same 'oh co-sign!' Line too
:usuresis:
Ur the one that makes a big deal out of cosigns. No one runs around here talking about cosigns except the faggots that never get em :dead:
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 12:20:14 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 12:15:17 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 12:12:43 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 12:05:27 PM
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 11:54:41 AM
Quote from: Uni on October 12, 2016, 11:53:51 AM
someone say Usher's not an Icon while doing the running man on youtube
and lay this fag to rest.
Yea apparently if we make a youtube video, it's official :kii:
Your not a dancer, or dance TEACHER dumb idiot.
Too busy begging for co signs :kii:
How do u know what i am? How do u know what they are? Because they said so? You're an idiot :kii:
No way you have time to dance, rehearse, TEACH and train with all
The leisure time you spend on here :dead:
And if you are a dance teacher,
Prove it. Bsource cant cosign that :kii:
Prove that I'm not. Jesus be a morsel of fckn sense :dead:
Cause ya ain't one. Ain't no active dance teacher has time to do the fuck
Shit you do
Where's your PROOF? :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 12:20:54 PM
Ur the one that makes a big deal out of cosigns. No one runs around here talking about cosigns except the faggots that never get em :dead:
like ray
:ohwow:
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 12:15:02 PM
Cosigns really get under Ra....Gen's skin :dead: ppl would agree with you too if ya weren't so damn dumb
whats going on what were you going to say
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 10:28:03 AM
Jesus
you said Usher's formula worked hence him not needing to switch it up for years, when clearly it didnt work because he went from 10 million one album to 1 million to gold,
this is where your logic falls off
if his formula didn't work BECAUSE he went from 10 Million to 1 Mill
Then the same would go for an artist who went from 5 Million to 1 Million
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 10:30:03 AM
and even IF others had touched on it prior to Full Moon no one took it to that level vocally like Brandy did
It was risky for HER, from traditional R&B to something edgier, sexier and non conformist
Usher has been releasing the same content every album :uhh:
Usher has not been releasing the same content
because if that was the case no one would be fuming over him doing a lil EDM music, and asking him to go back to R&B
So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
See, now Gen is gone :dead:
So Usher is an Icon but BSource hates him and refuses to admit it
Wow, he ain't
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 01:22:19 PM
So Usher is an Icon but the BSource homegirls hate him and refuses to admit it
:damselindistress:
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 01:20:53 PM
See, now Gen is gone :dead:
I ain't go no where little hoe
Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 11:24:00 AM
Beyonce has the uh oh and single ladies dance
Michael had the moonwalk
Janet had RN
.........
you telling me after 20 years in the game Usher only managed to come up with a footslide and 360 spin?
dances people been doing since the damn 90's?
I mean at least Ciara had the fucking Matrix :plzstop:
basically you think the dance is corny or something so you're downplaying the fact that it's a signature move of his that ppl can identify on the spot
Ciara didn't invent the Matrix
Michael CLEARLY didn't invent the Moonwalk
Beyonce doing a butt bounce
the Single Ladies was originally from Bob Fosse's wife
on YouTube, and gay men doing the "j-setting" thing
Rhythm Nation isn't a dance move it's a video/song
so either he has one or no one does
:kii:
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 01:23:07 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 01:22:19 PM
So Usher is an Icon but the BSource homegirls hate him and refuses to admit it
:damselindistress:
why did you change my words?
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 01:22:19 PM
So Usher is an Icon but BSource hates him and refuses to admit it
They backtrack so much it's hilarious
"Usher has no iconic dance or signature moves"
*post videos of dance teachers having dance classes focused on Usher's moves*
"Inserts Bsource joke to try to defer the facts"
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 01:26:39 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 01:22:19 PM
So Usher is an Icon but BSource hates him and refuses to admit it
They backtrack so much it's hilarious
"Usher has no iconic dance or signature moves"
*post videos of dance teachers having dance classes focused on Usher's moves*
"Inserts Bsource joke to try to defer the facts"
I see it
and the mincing of words. "Oh he said the A-Town stomp is Iconic!"
I didn't, but he made a dance trend out it at the time, along with the other ones. Macarena was a trend too
Would you guys leave ray alone
everyone knows he's not
its ok, just let it go lol
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 12, 2016, 01:20:06 PM
So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
Real, stop.
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 01:22:19 PM
So Usher is an Icon but BSource hates him and refuses to admit it
Ok :dead:
:kii:
A poll shouldve been added with this
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 11, 2016, 11:58:14 PM
Chris is so fucking attractive.
His dancing was/is >
He can do more than EVERYONE.
music is >
ack. :loose2when: im stanning out
q
Quote from: Jay. on October 12, 2016, 12:35:07 AM
Let me just toss this into a coffin and nail it shut.
n
putting my foot downe, guys! I mean it!
hvfkdfmf,v.cvfdfdnfdndf
jay boy
sfsfsfffdfdddddd *bangs gavel*
:plzstop:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 01:41:20 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 12, 2016, 01:39:16 PM
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Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 12, 2016, 01:30:39 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 12, 2016, 01:20:06 PM
So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
Quote from: Kaeli. on October 12, 2016, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 01:41:20 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 12, 2016, 01:39:16 PM
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Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 12, 2016, 01:30:39 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 12, 2016, 01:20:06 PM
So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 01:45:05 PM
:plzstop:
I can't breathe! :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 07:55:26 AM
Quote from: pettypatty on October 12, 2016, 07:54:01 AM
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Quote from: COCO on October 12, 2016, 07:30:31 AM
"haters!
and it def broke because he went from 10 mill to 1 to barely gold
By this logic Brandy went from 5 Mill on NSN to 1 Mill on FM to barely Gold on Afro
does that mean her music is bad too?
What does Brandy have to do with this hun
:udontlookok:
apparently a lot
Jayden brought up how she "switched it up" and Usher didn't
:ATLcameo:
but now he's using numbers to say what music was good so
:letsmessfag:
wow yea
Love that she took risks and experimented with her sound lolz
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
and Full Moon was not a risk musically
she got older, got pregnant and started singing adult themes
her and Rodney had had already created a sound on NSN and they just continued to move forward on FM, it's the best album ever but it's not risky. Its R&B
n
FM ain't all that similar at all. It was a huge risk and not nearly as commercial
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 01:50:51 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on October 12, 2016, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 01:41:20 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 12, 2016, 01:39:16 PM
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Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 12, 2016, 01:30:39 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 12, 2016, 01:20:06 PM
So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
https://twitter.com/OhKayByeeee/status/785992432617857024
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 12, 2016, 01:34:30 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 11, 2016, 11:58:14 PM
Chris is so fucking attractive.
His dancing was/is >
He can do more than EVERYONE.
music is >
ack. :loose2when: im stanning out
q
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb.
!!!
and I swear I read an article recently about how big of a risk FM was
Female music forum saying who's an icon to male r & b singers :kii:
a random with a female in his sig claiming to know anything about male r&b :kii:
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 01:50:51 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on October 12, 2016, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2016, 01:41:20 PM
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Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 12, 2016, 01:30:39 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on October 12, 2016, 01:20:06 PM
So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
Facts dont lie, Bsource homegirls do.
Not to mention BOTH Michael Jackson AND JAMES BROWN both praised Usher and gave him REAL CO signs, not from just homegirls. :kii:
BET recognised Usher's influence on many contemporary artists such as Chris Brown,[214] Trey Songz,[215] Jason Derulo,[216] Miguel,[217] Drake,[218] Justin Bieber,[219] Omarion,[220] Ray J,[221] August Alsina[222] and Eric Bellinger.[223] Ne-Yo further cited Usher as an influence upon the honor saying "I feel that without Usher, there would be no me, there would be no Chris Brown, there would be no Trey Songz. He paved the way for us".[224] Other R&B, hip hop and pop artists who have cited Usher as an influence are Bruno Mars,[225] Zayn Malik,[226] Jeremih,[227] Sam Hunt,[228] Leon Bridges,[229] Sammie,[230] B.Smyth,[231] and Jacob Latimore.[232] Actor Tahj Mowry cites 8701 as an influence in his role of pursuing music and a singing career.[233]
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So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
is that from wikipedia
All these male r & b singers say Usher inspired him
But bsource homegirls who didn't sell one record say he ain't?
:kii:
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 12, 2016, 02:29:21 PM
is that from wikipedia
With attatched sources. Feel free to click and view them ALL, It's alot of reciepts to go through.
:kii:
He got the HITS, Sales, Verification from BOTH MJ and James Brown, and influenced countless male r & b singers.
What accolades the homegirls got to even say he ain't an icon? :kii:
Glad we all know he's not an icon. Someone should lock this.
why is is still open
can someone delete this
Female music forum says Usher isn't an icon but the male artist community says he is :kii:
Like I said from page 1, you hoes aren't qualified for this discussion.
How's Tamar's weave today? :plzstop:
Quote from: Uni on October 12, 2016, 02:26:01 PM
a random with a female in his sig claiming to know anything about male r&b :kii:
And dont forget a ciara stan. If that doesn't MOOT everything iono what does :kii:
How's Beyonce's?
Nice sig btw
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 02:29:42 PM
bsource homegirls
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Quote from: Uni on October 12, 2016, 02:26:01 PM
a random with a female in his sig claiming to know anything about male r&b :kii:
And dont forget a ciara stan. If that doesn't MOOT everything iono what does :kii:
I also used other male r & b singers who also said he's an icon. I'm sure they more qualified to say who's an icon in THEIR genre of music than some bsource homegirl. :dead:
So dance teachers and choreographers teach usher dance moves but his dances aren't iconic because a homegirl said so.
Usher influenced and inspired several male singers, but he isn't an icon because a homegirl said so
Singers and dancers>>>homegirls shitty one sided opinions
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So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 02:52:05 PM
So dance teachers and choreographers teach usher dance moves but his dances aren't iconic because a homegirl said so.
Usher influenced and inspired several male singers, but he isn't an icon because a homegirl said so
Singers and dancers>>>homegirls shitty one sided opinions
:omgwatshappening:
gen' is bac is more feisty than evr
day 3
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day 3
And still no signs of the consensus changing, poor flush :stressed:
That wasn't a shot at yaki
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day 3
And still no signs of the consensus changing, poor flush :stressed:
The concious is the male r & b community, not your homegirls :kii:
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 03:28:09 PM
That wasn't a shot at yaki
you still have a strike against for something I don't remember
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day 3
And still no signs of the consensus changing, poor flush :stressed:
The concious is the male r & b community, not your homegirls :kii:
Fag, move yo nonsensical ass outta my quotes :dead:
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day 3
And still no signs of the consensus changing, poor flush :stressed:
The concious is the male r & b community, not your homegirls :kii:
Fag, move yo nonsensical ass outta my quotes :dead:
I'm not a man who sleeps with gay men, that's what your job is faggot.
Male artists saying Usher is an icon is far more valid than some random ass bsource homegirl :kii:
Get over it! KINGSHER>>
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So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
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So Usher is an Icon but the BSource homegirls hate him and refuses to admit it
:damselindistress:
:plzstop:
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So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
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So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
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So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
and Full Moon was not a risk musically
she got older, got pregnant and started singing adult themes
her and Rodney had had already created a sound on NSN and they just continued to move forward on FM, it's the best album ever but it's not risky. Its R&B
WHAT THE FUCK? :uhh: Full Moon was a total risk. Full Moon was progressive R&B at its finest unlike anything Flusher has EVER DONE. Now SIT the fuck DOWN. Brandy is more of an icon than Flusher will EVER BE. Know that Franklin looking faggot.
Oh lord
:omgwatshappening:
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Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
and Full Moon was not a risk musically
she got older, got pregnant and started singing adult themes
her and Rodney had had already created a sound on NSN and they just continued to move forward on FM, it's the best album ever but it's not risky. Its R&B
WHAT THE FUCK? :uhh: Full Moon was a total risk. Full Moon was progressive R&B at its finest unlike anything Flusher has EVER DONE. Now SIT the fuck DOWN. Brandy is more of an icon than Flusher will EVER BE. Know that Franklin looking faggot.
:everythingok:
Not dragging Bran into the mess
Ray really fumed in here huh
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
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Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
and Full Moon was not a risk musically
she got older, got pregnant and started singing adult themes
her and Rodney had had already created a sound on NSN and they just continued to move forward on FM, it's the best album ever but it's not risky. Its R&B
WHAT THE FUCK? :uhh: Full Moon was a total risk. Full Moon was progressive R&B at its finest unlike anything Flusher has EVER DONE. Now SIT the fuck DOWN. Brandy is more of an icon than Flusher will EVER BE. Know that Franklin looking faggot.
Now Jay... :calmdownsis:
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Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
and Full Moon was not a risk musically
she got older, got pregnant and started singing adult themes
her and Rodney had had already created a sound on NSN and they just continued to move forward on FM, it's the best album ever but it's not risky. Its R&B
WHAT THE FUCK? :uhh: Full Moon was a total risk. Full Moon was progressive R&B at its finest unlike anything Flusher has EVER DONE. Now SIT the fuck DOWN. Brandy is more of an icon than Flusher will EVER BE. Know that Franklin looking faggot.
Now Jay... :calmdownsis:
No. He tried it with the Brandy shade.
If only Bsource posts were as credible as people who actually work and live in the music industry. :kii:
Do u work and live in the music industry
nnbnnnnn
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 04:35:50 PM
Do u work and live in the music industry
the people who said Usher is an icon is.
:plzstop: :kii:
If yall don't lock this damn. Y'all locked AND deleted the juicy thread where Monica said the only Grammy she and Brandy got was together but y'all leaving this bullshit open.
So because this is a female R&B artist forum, that means we have NO knowledge about music or no knowledge about what an icon is in the male world. Bullshit.
Oh but HEY Homegirls! Wyd tonight?!
Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 04:39:53 PM
Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 04:35:50 PM
Do u work and live in the music industry
the people who said Usher is an icon is.
:plzstop: :kii:
So that's a no?
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Quote from: Scott. on October 12, 2016, 05:38:11 PM
So because this is a female R&B artist forum, that means we have NO knowledge about music or no knowledge about what an icon is in the male world. Bullshit.
Yup, because the reasons why he isn't an icon makes no sense and in the MALE ENTERTAINMENT WORLD he is respected, impactful, and iconic. Which is why I said y'all don't know shit from the jump.
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Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
and Full Moon was not a risk musically
she got older, got pregnant and started singing adult themes
her and Rodney had had already created a sound on NSN and they just continued to move forward on FM, it's the best album ever but it's not risky. Its R&B
WHAT THE FUCK? :uhh: Full Moon was a total risk. Full Moon was progressive R&B at its finest unlike anything Flusher has EVER DONE. Now SIT the fuck DOWN. Brandy is more of an icon than Flusher will EVER BE. Know that Franklin looking faggot.
Now Jay... :calmdownsis:
No. He tried it with the Brandy shade.
Im not gonna go to that level
there was no Brandy shade though
FM wasn't a risk and Brandy is not more of an Icon than Usher
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Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 04:35:50 PM
Do u work and live in the music industry
the people who said Usher is an icon is.
:plzstop: :kii:
So that's a no?
(http://i.makeagif.com/media/4-01-2015/9thFSG.gif)
does it matter?
if the actual artist are praising him
why would Gen have to be in the industry?
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Not dragging Bran into the mess
Im not the one who brought her in
Jayden did
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Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 04:35:50 PM
Do u work and live in the music industry
the people who said Usher is an icon is.
:plzstop: :kii:
So that's a no?
(http://i.makeagif.com/media/4-01-2015/9thFSG.gif)
does it matter?
if the actual artist are praising him
why would Gen have to be in the industry?
(http://i.makeagif.com/media/4-01-2015/9thFSG.gif)
The same reason he/you tried to insinuate our opinions are invalid because we're not in the industry
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So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
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Quote from: Real on October 12, 2016, 04:35:50 PM
Do u work and live in the music industry
the people who said Usher is an icon is.
:plzstop: :kii:
So that's a no?
(http://i.makeagif.com/media/4-01-2015/9thFSG.gif)
does it matter?
if the actual artist are praising him
why would Gen have to be in the industry?
(http://i.makeagif.com/media/4-01-2015/9thFSG.gif)
The same reason he/you tried to insinuate our opinions are invalid because we're not in the industry
well that's true
it's not OUR opinions that are what's deciding Usher as an Icon and yours can't stop him, so yea
if his peers, and followers are all at a consensus
them>>>y'all
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So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
Why is Tranet the only "legend" with no diamond album? :cheerup:
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So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
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So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
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So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
Why is Tranet the only "legend" with no diamond album? :cheerup:
Who cares, she's an undeniable legend, meanwhile Ciara didn't make it past album #2
Quote from: AYR on October 11, 2016, 06:09:20 PM
and he is an Icon
there's receipts everywhere and not just numbers
but stay hating
What's a bsource quote to an entire industry? :kii:
Quoting your homegirls won't change history :plzstop:
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 10:51:20 PM
https://www.buzzfeed.com/hannahgiorgis/how-do-i-say-is-still-the-goat?utm_term=.ijzWNevlA#.bj0vQ8xap
Let?s Talk About The Album That Actually Made Usher An Icon
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So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
Quote from: AYR on October 10, 2016, 10:52:50 PM
USHER THROUGH THE YEARS: SEE THE R&B ICON'S STYLE EVOLUTION
http://www.fuse.tv/galleries/2012/07/awesome-usher-photos
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So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
63 pages :uhh:
Quote from: TAE! on October 12, 2016, 08:03:40 AM
I think he is, even though he's had a few career misses.
Can't argue with reciepts so now the homegirls are quoting each other
You hoes are tragic :plzstop:
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So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
shut UP faggots
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So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
Jjj why is he quoting himself
Same reason you quoted yourself in here
and so did Real and the rest of y'all
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I didn't quote myself
where are the mods f
if this bitch goes to 70
lonz this new name dhfnvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
but
who you lovin, who you wanna be huggin'
dippin on ya ninja honda wit tanisha and rhonda
WHA!
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Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 12, 2016, 06:32:34 PM
but
who you lovin, who you wanna be huggin'
dippin on ya ninja honda wit tanisha and rhonda
WHA!
(https://media.giphy.com/media/107BqYmJAMqeEE/giphy.gif)
wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Quote from: Genesis on October 12, 2016, 05:45:53 PM
Quote from: Scott. on October 12, 2016, 05:38:11 PM
So because this is a female R&B artist forum, that means we have NO knowledge about music or no knowledge about what an icon is in the male world. Bullshit.
Yup, because the reasons why he isn't an icon makes no sense and in the MALE ENTERTAINMENT WORLD he is respected, impactful, and iconic. Which is why I said y'all don't know shit from the jump.
All of this should apply to you too.
Quote from: MelMel on October 12, 2016, 06:49:35 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 12, 2016, 06:32:34 PM
but
who you lovin, who you wanna be huggin'
dippin on ya ninja honda wit tanisha and rhonda
WHA!
(https://media.giphy.com/media/107BqYmJAMqeEE/giphy.gif)
wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(https://media.giphy.com/media/107BqYmJAMqeEE/giphy.gif)
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OMF
I just noticed this video has 121,136,870 views
this ICONIC ass song
vvvvvvvvvvvvv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3IWTfcks4k
Burn wait!
113,659,392 views
well stand the test of time then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5XNWFw5HVw
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wow Me, Myself & I 46,480,055 views
so popular & stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S37SGxZSMc
If its loving that you want then you should make me your girl
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Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 07:36:42 PM
wow Me, Myself & I 46,480,055 views
so popular & stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S37SGxZSMc
dbbfbbbbbb
Uh oh
:ack:
Confessions was a great era...
so glad U Got It Bad came from 8701 and ppl still streamed it like CRAZY in the digital era
what a CLASSIC
You work more body than Jane Fonda, physical FITness. Mary BLIGE be my witness
Quote from: Columbo! PICASSO! on October 12, 2016, 07:45:26 PM
You work more body than Jane Fonda, physical FITness. Mary BLIGE be my witness
jjhh
still LOVE this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej7dFf7gYbw
Just agree to disagree everybody
My goodness :uhh:
Tribute your fave then Trey!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLWU0s88RQY
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 07:53:53 PM
Tribute your fave then Trey!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLWU0s88RQY
Now u know damn well Ush' is not his fave :kii:
TEARS
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Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 07:53:53 PM
Tribute your fave then Trey!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLWU0s88RQY
Now u know damn well Ush' is not his fave :kii:
I cant read his mind
but here he is tributing Ush so... :kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 07:53:53 PM
Tribute your fave then Trey!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLWU0s88RQY
@ 2:40
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[youtube start=203 autoplay=1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWhpYluFJHk[/youtube]
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but
who you lovin, who you wanna be huggin'
dippin on ya ninja honda wit tanisha and rhonda
WHA!
(https://media.giphy.com/media/107BqYmJAMqeEE/giphy.gif)
wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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(https://uploadir.com/u/ldhrlhgr)(https://uploadir.com/u/ldhrlhgr)(https://uploadir.com/u/ldhrlhgr)(https://uploadir.com/u/ldhrlhgr)(https://uploadir.com/u/ldhrlhgr)(https://uploadir.com/u/ldhrlhgr)(https://uploadir.com/u/ldhrlhgr)(https://uploadir.com/u/ldhrlhgr)(https://uploadir.com/u/ldhrlhgr)(https://uploadir.com/u/ldhrlhgr)
bitch :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 07:36:42 PM
wow Me, Myself & I 46,480,055 views
so popular & stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S37SGxZSMc
well that song is trash :jackiessales:
Quote from: MelMel on October 12, 2016, 08:21:32 PM
Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 07:36:42 PM
wow Me, Myself & I 46,480,055 views
so popular & stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S37SGxZSMc
well that song is trash :jackiessales:
better than everything on B Day :ohwow:
fuck u and Usher
It's kind of sad how y'all are carrying. If y'all really think he's an icon y'all wouldn't be trying to convince us he's one :kii:
Quote from: imani on October 12, 2016, 08:33:20 PM
It's kind of sad how y'all are carrying. If y'all really think he's an icon y'all wouldn't be trying to convince us he's one :kii:
So true
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Quote from: AYR on October 12, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
and Full Moon was not a risk musically
she got older, got pregnant and started singing adult themes
her and Rodney had had already created a sound on NSN and they just continued to move forward on FM, it's the best album ever but it's not risky. Its R&B
WHAT THE FUCK? :uhh: Full Moon was a total risk. Full Moon was progressive R&B at its finest unlike anything Flusher has EVER DONE. Now SIT the fuck DOWN. Brandy is more of an icon than Flusher will EVER BE. Know that Franklin looking faggot.
Now Jay... :calmdownsis:
No. He tried it with the Brandy shade.
Im not gonna go to that level
there was no Brandy shade though
FM wasn't a risk and Brandy is not more of an Icon than Usher
Full Moon was more of a risk than anything Flusher has ever done and Brandy is and has been an icon more than Flush. Full Moon and Afrodisiac alone solidified Brandy's iconic status. Simple as that. Brandy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Flush in every way possible.
Every icon has at least one performance or video or SOMETHING that is undeniable and everyone can agree was an event in pop culture
Ushers most memorable moment was lashing his fans on TRL
Quote from: Chokeme on October 13, 2016, 04:57:26 AM
Every icon has at least one performance or video or SOMETHING that is undeniable and everyone can agree was an event in pop culture
Ushers most memorable moment was lashing his fans on TRL
sddsddsssssssssss
And not even that was memorable tbh
Quote from: Chokeme on October 13, 2016, 04:57:26 AM
Every icon has at least one performance or video or SOMETHING that is undeniable and everyone can agree was an event in pop culture
Ushers most memorable moment was lashing his fans on TRL
Usher's entire Confessions era was his memorable moment in pop culture
the breakup with Chilli, ppl really thinking he had a girl pregnant, all the hits yep Iconic
next excuse
Quote from: AYR on October 13, 2016, 06:47:10 AM
Quote from: Chokeme on October 13, 2016, 04:57:26 AM
Every icon has at least one performance or video or SOMETHING that is undeniable and everyone can agree was an event in pop culture
Ushers most memorable moment was lashing his fans on TRL
Usher's entire Confessions era was his memorable moment in pop culture
the breakup with Chilli, ppl really thinking he had a girl pregnant, all the hits yep Iconic
next excuse
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Confessions EraBut what from the Confession era. What was the iconic moment?
Performance or Video that he will be remembered for?
Ask a random person on the street what Usher is known for and they couldn't tell you.
I sure as hell cant.
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Quote from: Chokeme on October 13, 2016, 04:57:26 AM
Every icon has at least one performance or video or SOMETHING that is undeniable and everyone can agree was an event in pop culture
Ushers most memorable moment was lashing his fans on TRL
Usher's entire Confessions era was his memorable moment in pop culture
the breakup with Chilli, ppl really thinking he had a girl pregnant, all the hits yep Iconic
next excuse
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Confessions Era
But what from the Confession era. What was the iconic moment?
Performance or Video that he will be remembered for?
Ask a random person on the street what Usher is known for and they couldn't tell you.
I sure as hell cant.
the whole era was Iconic
but I bet if you asked that person they would say either the Confessions ALBUM or the song/video for Yeah
Quote from: Chokeme on October 13, 2016, 04:57:26 AM
Every icon has at least one performance or video or SOMETHING that is undeniable and everyone can agree was an event in pop culture
Ushers most memorable moment was lashing his fans on TRL
Confessions was a moment in pop culture.
And the entire male entertainment world agrees.
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So at the END OF THE FUCKIN DAY, Usher ain't no damn icon.
what kinda vortex
Quote from: Chokeme on October 13, 2016, 04:57:26 AM
Every icon has at least one performance or video or SOMETHING that is undeniable and everyone can agree was an event in pop culture
Ushers most memorable moment was lashing his fans on TRL
wait what?